Libby Prison Records?

[Fairfield]

The plot thickens...there was a fire that destroyed most of the Alabama records only those from Perryville survived.
Since my ancestor passed away in Maury County, TN, I checked the records from the 1890 Veterans Census there. There was only 1 page from Maury County and his name was not on that page.

Oh those fires! This is a major problem in New England. The 1890 census will record him where he was living in 1890. It's on Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/8667/) but I can't find him. This may be because he simply didn't make an entry (it was optional) or that his handwriting was such that Ancestry's transcriber wrongly identified him).

http://www.1stalabamacavalryusv.com/Roster/Troopers.aspx?trooperid=2027 (an online database/roster) states that he enlisted in Mississippi. Perhaps there are records there?

Was he from Marion County? GenWeb/Alabama has pages on ACW Marion County (if you don't use GenWeb, you should! It is a volunteer compilation--by geography--of transcriptions of primary sources). https://algenweb.org/marion/ (if he was from some other county, work your way back to the main page for Alabama and go on to the correct county). Incidentally, Tennessee also has a site on GenWeb https://www.tngenweb.org/. All states do.

 

[Georgia]

I've been flipping between Alabama, Mississippi and Tennessee. He was from Marion County, I believe. Mustered in one Corinth, MS but ended up living in Maury County, Tennessee.
This reminds me of researching Momma's side of the family and running into the issues of was it considered Delaware or Pennsylvania at the time I was looking? Or, did records get switched over or could they still be in the wrong state? Add in the Quaker records part of it too just for good measure.

The "family historian" has asked me to help determine the ancestry of the first Shotts/Schatz arriving in the colonies. Previous folks have a Spartanburg, SC location but that isn't correct. It was actually Lexington, SC and Lexington wasn't called that at the time they were there- so, looking into records of Sax Goethe records of the German and Swiss and hoping to find ships rosters that may help. But, we shall see-

I love a good search-

 

[Fairfield]

I've been flipping between Alabama, Mississippi and Tennessee. He was from Marion County, I believe. Mustered in one Corinth, MS but ended up living in Maury County, Tennessee.
This reminds me of researching Momma's side of the family and running into the issues of was it considered Delaware or Pennsylvania at the time I was looking? Or, did records get switched over or could they still be in the wrong state? Add in the Quaker records part of it too just for good measure.

The "family historian" has asked me to help determine the ancestry of the first Shotts/Schatz arriving in the colonies. Previous folks have a Spartanburg, SC location but that isn't correct. It was actually Lexington, SC and Lexington wasn't called that at the time they were there- so, looking into records of Sax Goethe records of the German and Swiss and hoping to find ships rosters that may help. But, we shall see-

I love a good search-

I do too! But, just a caveat: when researching a genealogy, never (never, ever) skip a generation. You start with yourself (or a child or a husband) and work your way backwards relentlessly. All you need is one adoption or one incorrect step, and everything you do afterwards is pointless. Don't make assumptions (there are an unbelievable number of people who have the same name). I've seen a good many cases of someone bound-and-determined to link to the Mayflower (a big thing among New Englanders) make their findings match their expectations. https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Genealogical_Standards_and_Guidelines_(National_Institute) published by FamilySearch is a very good description of the standards published by the National Institute.

When you get to immigrant genealogy, I'd suggest you spend some time researching how the process worked at the time, what records are available and where to find them. If you find yourself back in Saxe-Gotha, brush up on your German!

Sorry to sound like someone who teaches genealogy (but I do). You can turn out a tree quickly--and be wrong--or you can invest time and effort into a serious search. If you're going to give up any of the days of your life on a genealogy project, you might as well be right.

 

[Georgia]

@Fairfield,
I greatly appreciate any and all insights. The family has done the way you suggested from the current individual backwards. Not to air dirty laundry, but my Great Uncle Edgar was a member and officer of the SCV and the SAR. His records seem suspect on the very last generation as to the location. This was all done back in the 50's-60's, I believe. There are copies of his paperwork online to view, but Great Aunt Lillie was confused after he passed ( dementia is a horrible thing) and she tossed all of Uncle Edgar's research.
My Daddy's cousin is now the unofficial/official Family Historian and he believes Great Uncle Edgar is incorrect on the location of that ancestor. So, I offered to help him as best I could will finding out info as the location is about 30 minutes away from my husband's family. So, once the pandemic settles, I'll be able to go hit up the libraries for him. At 89, he's quite spry and has a mind like a steel trap. But, he just lost his wife to cancer and Covid and he just getting over covid, himself- So, whatever I can do to help, I'll gladly do.

I may be bending your ear for suggestions-if that would be ok with you. This is going to take some extra searching, I think. "Cousin" Jim asked if I had any pull in SC and I laughed and told him I might in the adjoining county. My ancestor left Delaware and went to SC. The area of his burial flooded so the local historical society didn't have anything in his passing. Thankfully, I had on my phone pictures from the cemetery of the 1706 church he helped start. At the back corner of the church was a stone that wasn't a grave- but listed his birth and death dates and a little more info. It didn't makes sense to me until the historian said what he said. I showed him the photo and that happened to be the closure/missing link he'd been wanting to find. So, I told "Cousin Jim" I might could see if this gentleman could help us. But, I've found genealogy folks to be incredibly helpful toward others - whether "they owe you" or not.

 

[Fairfield]

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@Fairfield,
I greatly appreciate any and all insights. The family has done the way you suggested from the current individual backwards. Not to air dirty laundry, but my Great Uncle Edgar was a member and officer of the SCV and the SAR. His records seem suspect on the very last generation as to the location. This was all done back in the 50's-60's, I believe. There are copies of his paperwork online to view, but Great Aunt Lillie was confused after he passed ( dementia is a horrible thing) and she tossed all of Uncle Edgar's research.
My Daddy's cousin is now the unofficial/official Family Historian and he believes Great Uncle Edgar is incorrect on the location of that ancestor. So, I offered to help him as best I could will finding out info as the location is about 30 minutes away from my husband's family. So, once the pandemic settles, I'll be able to go hit up the libraries for him. At 89, he's quite spry and has a mind like a steel trap. But, he just lost his wife to cancer and Covid and he just getting over covid, himself- So, whatever I can do to help, I'll gladly do.

I may be bending your ear for suggestions-if that would be ok with you. This is going to take some extra searching, I think. "Cousin" Jim asked if I had any pull in SC and I laughed and told him I might in the adjoining county. My ancestor left Delaware and went to SC. The area of his burial flooded so the local historical society didn't have anything in his passing. Thankfully, I had on my phone pictures from the cemetery of the 1706 church he helped start. At the back corner of the church was a stone that wasn't a grave- but listed his birth and death dates and a little more info. It didn't makes sense to me until the historian said what he said. I showed him the photo and that happened to be the closure/missing link he'd been wanting to find. So, I told "Cousin Jim" I might could see if this gentleman could help us. But, I've found genealogy folks to be incredibly helpful toward others - whether "they owe you" or not.

I'll be happy to help--but it sounds like you know what you're about. The only help I could give is if you find one of your wandering kindred up in Maine!

 

[Georgia]

I'll be happy to help--but it sounds like you know what you're about. The only help I could give is if you find one of your wandering kindred up in Maine!

I may be messaging you in the future! Stranger things have happened and Maine may not be off the table. Who would have thought that both of my Maternal grandparents' lines would have been in Delaware in the late 1600's-early 1700's ? Now, I've found the Stidham family on my Daddy's side also was in this same area at an even earlier time. So, three direct lines of my family all lived in a three county sized state at the same time. Yet, my maternal grandparents met in a one room schoolhouse in North Georgia and my Daddy's sides of the family are from North Alabama- mostly Marion and Walker counties.
I may find a Maine connection yet!

 

[Fairfield]

I may be messaging you in the future! Stranger things have happened and Maine may not be off the table. Who would have thought that both of my Maternal grandparents' lines would have been in Delaware in the late 1600's-early 1700's ? Now, I've found the Stidham family on my Daddy's side also was in this same area at an even earlier time. So, three direct lines of my family all lived in a three county sized state at the same time. Yet, my maternal grandparents met in a one room schoolhouse in North Georgia and my Daddy's sides of the family are from North Alabama- mostly Marion and Walker counties.
I may find a Maine connection yet!

Be glad to help out: Maine records can be difficult--if you expect them to make sense . Now, if you locate a kinsman in Massachusetts, you're in luck because its records are old and clear. You may find yourself joining the New England Historical and Genealogical Society--which if fine because its online records are good.