Monuments Lee Statue Should Not Be Moved

[Scotsman]

An interesting assertion. It's not the United Communities of America or the United People of America, it's the United States of America. It seems the states are fairly crucial.



You are certainly entitled to your view. It seems to me that tyranny can be present at any level of government.

If you choose to interpret the "states rights" issue of the Civil War as something as simple and shallow as whether the federal government or the state government has absolute power over the citizens, then it seems the war was over which king sits on the thrown. That's fine, but hardly a noble or principled cause.

I don't believe most people see, or saw, the "states rights" issue like that. Instead, secessionists argued that their actions were not simply legal within a compact of states, but also consistent with broader principles of natural law and the social contract.

I absolutely agree that tyranny can be present at any level of government. My overall point in this thread is to point out the irony, and hypocrisy, of a state government trying to protect a statue commemorating a person who fought against a government trying to enforce policies against the wishes of the local community by using the government to enforce policies that go against the wishes of the local community.

 

[Rebforever]

Do you not see the irony in the situation? I doubt proponents of the statue are commemorating the war as a fight to preserve slavery. Instead, they see Lee as a champion of local rule. A state government telling a city what it can or cannot do in regards to a purely local matter violates the very angle the statue is meant to celebrate.

Every time this topic comes up, people confuse public celebration or commemoration with historical study. The issue here is how a community wishes to commemorate parts of the past. It is a current events issue. If a majority in a community no longer believes a local statue represents them, why should an outside group or government overrule them?

Which book are you referring to?

Your first book.

 

[Scotsman]

Your first book.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

 

[Jamieva]

So now they hope to auction it off and force the buyer to pay ot move it. Good luck!!

Also i dont get why they're doing this to the Lee statue but the Jackson one is staying. Hello...consistency???

http://www.richmond.com/news/virgin...cle_ed1de5c2-01df-57cd-b63b-3daf91903635.html

 

[Rebforever]

I think you have me confused with someone else.

No, I pretty well have your number.

 

[Scotsman]

No, I pretty well have your number.

Based upon your vague comments about my "first" book, I don't think so.

 

[Rebforever]

Based upon your vague comments about my "first" book, I don't think so.

It sure is simple enough. You made a comment that I made a request from you about your "first" book you wrote. You do have a "first book" written, don't you?

 

[Scotsman]

It sure is simple enough. You made a comment that I made a request from you about your "first" book you wrote. You do have a "first book" written, don't you?

Yes, but my first book was published four years before you became a member here (at least under that username).

I don't believe I have discussed much about my books, at least directly, on this website.

Which gets back to my original question to you -- what book (or book topic) are you talking about?

 

[bankerpapaw]

History, good or bad, LET IT ALONG!!!

 

[Rebforever]

Yes, but my first book was published four years before you became a member here (at least under that username).

I don't believe I have discussed much about my books, at least directly, on this website.

Which gets back to my original question to you -- what book (or book topic) are you talking about?

What is the name of your first book?

 

[Rebforever]

History, good or bad, LET IT ALONG!!!

Yep! 'cause switchback is moren likely!

 

[Scotsman]

What is the name of your first book?

It sounds like you are just fishing for information rather than asking about a specific research project discussed here.

If you are referencing some previous discussion about my more recent research interests, then please remind me of the topic and I'd be happy to discuss it more. But otherwise, I doubt you and I ever had a conversation about my first book. And it isn't directly relevant to this thread.

 

[Jamieva]

For sale!

http://www.richmond.com/news/virgin...cle_c45667e1-6b00-5bd8-880d-c4a6b60a6a0d.html

 

[Andersonh1]

http://www.nbc29.com/story/35171631...ncil-votes-to-sell-statue-by-bid-rename-parks

Poll results so far.

Remove the statue of General Robert E. Lee, keep park name - 1%
Rename Lee Park, keep the statue - 4%
Remove the statue and rename the park - 6%
Don't change anything - 87%
None of the above - 3%


And from the comments, this one says it all:
"My hope was that a honest, robust, deep discussion of minority rights would bring us closer to that elusive goal of all men and women are created equal," Fenwick said.
Doesn't appear to be much discussion, just brow beating of others so a feel-good group of revisionists can continue to step on other's heritage and rewrite history to make themselves feel better. Disgraceful. - Tom Hays