Laurence or Lawrence?

[Taylin]

Just wanted to get some opinions on this, do these records read Laurence or Lawrence to you?

Records are:
1. Service index card
2. 1850 census
3. 1860 census
4. Ireland Catholic Parish Register - September 1835

 

[BCS1973]

I'm going without confidence that the service card is Laurance, the the Census is Lawrence. I can't tell about the other two.

 

[RedRover]

The Irish generally employed "Laurence" in the 19th Century. And that's what the above looks like to me generally... though the American census taker appears to have spelled it with a W.

Another 19th Century "Laurence Carroll" from Dublin became a Buddhist monk...

https://www.dib.ie/biography/dhammaloka-carroll-laurence-a9974

From an English book, the custom had taken to give as spelling "Lawrence" in lieu of "Laurence" after a time...

 

[Allyn]

Actually, I think they all say Laurence. I've been deciphering a lot of old German script, and I've learned to count the peaks and valleys.

 

[Taylin]

Thank you guys very much. I'm making some last minute corrections before ordering a monument and man o man has this name given me some stress

 

[JOHN42768]

I believe all to be with the letter U

 

[Taylin]

The Irish generally employed "Laurence"

In retrospect, this makes more sense. His brother's name is "Louis" instead of Lewis, which I guess should have been a large clue.
His index card is found under Laurence on Fold3, ancestry has it both ways for some Illinois service records however.

I believe we'll go with "Laurence" given the circumstantial evidence.

We are in the process of ordering a monument for members of the 19th Illinois that were killed in a train wreck down here in southern Indiana. Lots of the soldiers were recent immigrants and so the records have the names sort of all over.

For the most part we've settled on what we could find on their headstones and cross referencing with some records, but not every headstone has a picture up on findagrave and not every record agrees with each other. So it's been a nice little challenge. Generally where I've not been able to come to a 100% conclusion, I've gone with what I see on the index card with the idea that people who want to research the names will have an easier time finding the individuals service records

Appreciate all the help

 

[lupaglupa]

What a wonderful project to work on! Thank you for making sure these men have headstones.

 

[ErnieMac]

Census forms were filled out by an enumerator who recorded the information given to him verbally by the family. Entirely possible that the family said "Laurence', but the enumerator heard 'Lawrence'.

 

[genbeau]

Just wanted to get some opinions on this, do these records read Laurence or Lawrence to you?


View attachment 544454
View attachment 544455
View attachment 544456
View attachment 544457

Records are:
1. Service index card
2. 1850 census
3. 1860 census
4. Ireland Catholic Parish Register - September 1835

laurence

 

[Taylin]

What a wonderful project to work on! Thank you for making sure these men have headstones.

It's been a long year of researching and raising the necessary funds, applying for a grant and getting the awareness of the project out there.

It's not to get headstones, however, but a larger monument with all of their names, date of the accident and the regiments name to be placed on the old courthouse grounds in Martin County, Indiana, approximately 3.5 miles away from the area of the accident. There is going to be an interpretive panel near the monument that will give a summary of the story as well

 

[Manassas 1861]

I prefer what Chamberlain had to say on this topic, "don't call me Lawrence."