Jagerschnitzel?

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I ate Jagerschnitzel last night. Most Michigan forum members will know where I ate.


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I have eaten Jagerschnitzel in several areas of Germany and the Jagerschnitzel at this restaurant was not half bad. So some questions:

1. Would the average German immigrant have been familiar with Jagerschnitzel?
2. Was Jagerschnitzel a Civil War food in either Germany or the United States?
3. I also wonder if any of the potatoes, side dishes, or breads served with my Jagerschnitzel were anything a Civil War era German immigrant would have recognized?
4. What kind of "German" bread was eaten during the Civil War era?
5. Was yellow squash with green beans and carrots, a Civil War era thing?
 
Not sure about all the answers but it looks like the Bavarian Inn in Frankenmuth . My GGUncle George Veitengruber was from Frankenmuth and served in the 4th Michigan Cavalry . Years ago there was a restaurant in Frankenmuth called the Franken Ecke. It had authentic German food , but the owner moved back to Germany . Jagerschnitzel was my favorite but I don't know its history .
 
Let me start with what we call sauerkraut. The sauerkraut at the restaurant was fine. but I am not sure that the recipe used known during the Civil War. Sauerkraut was well-known throughout Europe long before the Civil War. Tartars brought it from China to Europe centuries before the Civil War. Sauerkraut, known by different names, would have been recognized by American immigrants from many parts of Europe. Some counties carrots of other things were added to the basic recipe, but the dish was about the same and based on fermented cabbage. Most Civil War immigrants probably would have eaten some style of sauerkraut during the Civil War era. I think it would have been fun to try a period sauerkraut recipe and compare it with the sauerkraut I ate last night.
 
Not sure about all the answers but it looks like the Bavarian Inn in Frankenmuth . My GGUncle George Veitengruber was from Frankenmuth and served in the 4th Michigan Cavalry . Years ago there was a restaurant in Frankenmuth called the Franken Ecke. It had authentic German food , but the owner moved back to Germany . Jagerschnitzel was my favorite but I don't know its history .
You nailed the restaurant. I have eaten jagerschnitzel in Bavaria and in western Germany as well as Switzerland. The Bavarian Inn in Frankenmuth was a bit different from any I ate in Europe. Most of the jagerschinitzel I ate in Germany had a darker sauce with bit more mushrooms. Still the jagerschnitzel at the Bavarian Inn in Franenmuth was very tasty and I enjoyed it. I would predict that if jagerschnitzel was eaten during the American Civil War, that the recipe would have been changed by adding what ever was available to the German immigrant. What ever mushrooms or other items were found in the woods where the immigrant lived would have found their way in to the dish.
 
Let me start with what we call sauerkraut. The sauerkraut at the restaurant was fine. but I am not sure that the recipe used known during the Civil War. Sauerkraut was well-known throughout Europe long before the Civil War. Tartars brought it from China to Europe centuries before the Civil War. Sauerkraut, known by different names, would have been recognized by American immigrants from many parts of Europe. Some counties carrots of other things were added to the basic recipe, but the dish was about the same and based on fermented cabbage. Most Civil War immigrants probably would have eaten some style of sauerkraut during the Civil War era. I think it would have been fun to try a period sauerkraut recipe and compare it with the sauerkraut I ate last night.
My paternal grandparents were both of German heritage and I helped Grandpa make sauerkraut a few times in crocks . It was much better than the stuff you buy today.
 
Polish, Hungarian, and French immigrants among others immigrants had their own terms for sauerkraut, but to be honest shredded fermented cabbage if shredded fermented cabbage. Still, regardless of what it was called, it might be fun to try all the Civil War versions of this dish. What about Asian versions from the Civil War era?
 
So what about stollen (fruit and nut bread)? I would have to research if powdered sugar was common during the Civil War, but I guess they could have eaten stollen without the powdered sugar topping. But who would want to eat fruit and nut bread without the powdered sugar? Are we barbarians?
 
So what about stollen (fruit and nut bread)? I would have to research if powdered sugar was common during the Civil War, but I guess they could have eaten stollen without the powdered sugar topping. But who would want to eat fruit and nut bread without the powdered sugar? Are we barbarians?
My grandmother made it at Christmas but I know it's sold in Frankenmuth year round . As a child I didn't care for it but have really enjoyed it as an adult . I think there are assorted recipes for it .
 
A side note: During World War One sauerkraut was called "Liberty Cabbage" because all things German were looked down on. I have some doubt that Liberty Cabbage tasted any different from pre WWI sauerkraut and am not sure the recipe was altered to be somehow "un German".
 
A "schnitzel" is merely a cutlet of meat that is beaten and pounded thin. Cooked just like that, renders it a "natur art" schnitzel. Dipping it in some egg thinned with cold water, rolling it in bread-crumbs, and frying it in a pan makes it a potential "Wienerschnitzel" or Vienna-style schnitzel, with the addition of lemon. Add anchovies and a sunny-side up "spiegeleier" or fried egg and the result is a Schleswig-Holsteiner-art schnitzel. Top it off with a murky dark mushroom gravy, and the result is the "Hunter's schnitzel" or Jägerschnitzel. Make a sauce with paprika and other exotic items, and the result can be a so-called "Zigeunerschnitzel" or "Gypsy-style."

Schnitzels are, dare I say it?, the schnitzel. The technique of preparing and cooking them is very old indeed. In Spanish-speaking nations, the breaded fried cutlet is a "Milanesa" as in Milan, once a part of the Austrian Empire, rather than Vienna, its capital.

As you know first hand from your travel experiences in Bayern and other Bundesländer of the Federal Republic, the "traditional" meat used was veal. This was because the dairy, milk, cheese cattle needed calves in order to lactate. But there is not much wide open range land in Germany, as a rule, and so the calves need to be culled and butchered and eaten. For this reason, a trip to modern Germany will turn up any number of Turkish schnell-Imbiß that serve "dönerkebap." Unlike the Middle Eastern use of lamb, in Germany the Turkish migrant or long term resident often resorts to veal. Today, of course, pork has largely superseded veal as the cheapest meat available, and so most schnitzels served in Deutschland and the Vereinigten Staaten are schweinschnitzels, made with pork.

Believe-it-or-not, but many modern Japanese foods arose from military rations. When conscription was adopted by the Imperial Japanese Army, it was found that the impoverished peasantry that made up the draftees were often in a very parlous physical state and showed considerable debility from malnutrition and scarcity throughout their lives. So rations were, pun intended, beefed up, so that soldiers could carry out all of the grueling and physically demanding tasks required of them. One lasting Japanese army ration that became a popular modern Japanese dish was "Katsu-curry," which was a schnitzel/milanesa, cut up into chopstick-sized morsels, put on top of a bowl of rice, and smothered in a thick gravy with potatoes and carrots and so on.

As for sauerkraut, my wife and I make traditional, Eastern European/Russian-style sauerkraut in a massive crock. It is hard work, but well worth it. You need a pallet of cabbages, salt, and a wood rammer device. It is a very easy fermentation. Historically, there were literal barrels of sauerkraut stored away for long term rations. The best Asian version is Korean kimche, which we've also made, with its somewhat different ingredients and different crock. An Alsatian classic is "bauernschmaus" in German or Alsatian (a Western Germanic language), or "choucroute garni Alsacienne" in French, is a pile of wurst, rippchen, and other pork-derived delicacies within a plateful of hotted up sauerkraut.

As for Weinachtstollen, yes, it is a very old thing indeed. You'll note that actual, honest-to-God German Weinachtstollen is actually not very sweet, and more of a bread than a cake. The sweetness came from dried, preserved, or candied fruits and various spices added to the loaf. The sprinkling of powdered sugar was to look like snow. Way back in the day, a tipple of schnapps or some other distilled beverage could be poured over a slice to, um, soften it for gramps what with his missing teeth and all... This was in the barbarous period when revelers at the Oktoberfest would bring their own krug, or what we call a "bierstein" and rinse it out between fillings from the keg in a common water trough....

Real "hausgemacht" sauerkraut makes the absolute best Russian cabbage soup or "schi." Trying to make it with store bought, vinegar-laded sauerkraut is not good.

I'd encourage you to check out a German army cookbook. It shows some basic old German cooking techniques that were long in use, and most of all, how to feed an army with nothing but cabbage, flour, salt, and this or that scrounged from the surroundings.
 
The Jagerschnitzel sounds like a tasty dish. I've never tried on my travels in Germany, I've been there a few times and never spotted it or took note of it on a menu. The closest thing I've tried is the Vienna Schnitzel, I had that in Slovakia & Austria. The ones in Vienna are amazing, thin & crispy served with a half lemon to squeeze on top , absolutely delicious dish.
 
Let me start with what we call sauerkraut. The sauerkraut at the restaurant was fine. but I am not sure that the recipe used known during the Civil War. Sauerkraut was well-known throughout Europe long before the Civil War. Tartars brought it from China to Europe centuries before the Civil War. Sauerkraut, known by different names, would have been recognized by American immigrants from many parts of Europe. Some counties carrots of other things were added to the basic recipe, but the dish was about the same and based on fermented cabbage. Most Civil War immigrants probably would have eaten some style of sauerkraut during the Civil War era. I think it would have been fun to try a period sauerkraut recipe and compare it with the sauerkraut I ate last night.
I don't know about the recipes, but since nobody's mentioned it, German immigrant soldiers during the war were noted for their lack of complaints of scurvy which sometimes afflicted the troops. Of course this was because sauerkraut was also an excellent source of vitamin C!
 

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