Iowa 27th at Gettysburg?

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I am searching for information about a relative of mine, Pvt Henry Greineisen of the Iowa 27th infantry Co. G. Henry's military records indicate that he was shot in the leg during the battle at gettysburg. He applied for a pension but never received it. I sent away for his pension records but have not received them yet.
1. Why was a soldier from the Iowa 27th doing at gettysburg, when the rest of his unit was elsewhere guarding union payroll trains. Was he a sniper or someone with special skills?
2. As Henry's only living relative, I want to find out where he is buried and ensure he gets the respect and honor he deserves.
Thank you
Bill Greineisen GySgt. USMC (ret)
 
Why was a soldier from the Iowa 27th doing at gettysburg,

The 27th Iowa served in the western theater. There was a 43 year-old "Wagoner" in Company A captured on 7/3/1863.

Roster & Record of Iowa Soldiers in the War of Rebellion says your ancestor was indeed wounded on 7/3/1863, and the "Wagoner" captured the same day, but doesn't say where.

Twenty-seventh Infantry IOWA
(3 years)

Twenty-seventh Infantry. Col., James Gilbert Lieut.-Col., Jed
Lake; Maj., George W. Howard.

This regiment was organized in the summer of 1862 and was
mustered in Oct. 3. A week later it reported to Maj.-Gen.
Pope, commanding the Department of the Northwest, to take part
in the campaign against the Indians, who were waging war
against the settlers of Minnesota.

Upon reaching St. Paul it went into quarters at Fort Snelling,
and soon after Col. Gilbert, accompanied by six companies of
the regiment, proceeded to Mille Lac, to superintend the
payment of the annuity to the tribe at that point. In the
meantime Maj. Howard had been ordered to report at Cairo, IL,
with the remaining four companies and had departed for that
place. Col. Gilbert received similar orders on his return
from Mille Lac and moved at once.

The regiment went into camp at Memphis but soon moved on the
expedition into central Mississippi, marched to the
Tallahatchie River, and was assigned to the duty of guarding
the Mississippi Central railway between that point and the
town of Waterford. In December a small band of cavalry made a
dash on the regimental hospital, captured 11 men and hurried
them across the country 15 miles, when, finding them unable to
proceed, the officer in command paroled them and turned them
loose.

The regiment went to Jackson and marched with the other forces
to assist Gen. Sullivan, who was in a fight with Forrest
beyond Lexington, but failed to reach him in time to take part
in the fray or even to overtake the flying enemy, who was in
retreat for Clinton. It spent the winter at Jackson,
suffering greatly from sickness, the result of the last
campaign which was made without blankets or rations. The
regiment held the post at Corinth part of April, and was then
posted in detachments at various points along the railway from
Jackson with Col. Gilbert in command of the post at that
place.

In June it moved to Lagrange, thence to Moscow, and performed
similar duties near that place for two months, having frequent
skirmishes with guerrillas. In August it formed part of a
detached brigade which went to the support of Gen. Steele,
then moving on Little Rock, and took part in the capture of
that place. It remained there on guard and picket duty until
Nov. 15, when it moved to Memphis and went into quarters until
Jan. 26, 1864.

It then proceeded to Vicksburg and was assigned to the 2nd
brigade, 3rd division, 16th corps, with which it took part in
the Meridian raid and returned March 4. It accompanied the
Red River expedition a few days later and was in numerous
skirmishes and battles of that movement. At Pleasant Hill it
lost 88 in killed and wounded, and it formed a part of the
force that covered the retreat from Grand Ecore to Alexandria,
almost constantly skirmishing on the way. It was also engaged
at Marksville and Yellow bayou. It accompanied the forces
under Smith, which dislodged Marmaduke from his position at
Lake Chicot and then went into camp at Memphis.

It was heavily engaged at Tupelo, and at the battle of Old
Town Creek on the following day it took a prominent part.
Returning to Memphis, it joined the Oxford expedition, after
which it proceeded to Jefferson barracks, Mo. It accompanied
an expedition through the state in the early part of October,
in pursuit of Price, as far as Little Santa Fe on the Arkansas
line, but returned without having had a fight.

It accompanied Smith's forces to Nashville, where it took
position in the line of defenses and was active in the battle
in December. Col. Gilbert was in command of the brigade and
its work was such as to win for him a commission as brigadier-
general soon after. The regiment lost 61 but inflicted much
greater damage on the enemy. In the pursuit it moved to
Pulaski, thence to Clifton and Eastport and Feb. 9, embarked
for Dauphin island, Ala.

It took part in the operations about Mobile, aided in the
siege of Fort Blakely, was in the final assault when its
brigade captured 8 pieces of artillery and 600 prisoners.
Gen. Gilbert was afterwards brevetted major-general for his
skillful conduct in this affair. With its brigade the
regiment was assigned duty in garrison work, but was soon
after sent to Montgomery where it remained for two months and
was mustered out in July, 1865, when its recruits were
transferred to the veteran 12th IA

Source: The Union Army, vol. 4

*********************************************************************************
 
Here is the page from Henry's mil records. I hope you can read it. It states in several different places that he was most definitely shot at Gettysburg.
Thank you for your help.

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Here is the page from Henry's mil records. I hope you can read it. It states in several different places that he was most definitely shot at Gettysburg.
Thank you for your help.

View attachment 302813

Welcome to CWT ! Hope you'll visit the "Researching Your Civil War Ancestor" forum and let us know what you find from his pension application. Here's his page at the American Civil War Research Database :



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Thank you. My mission is to find Henry's final resting place and ensure he gets the resting place of honor he deserves.
 
Welcome from the Shiloh/Pittsburg Landing Forum and North Mississippi! Be sure and visit the Forum soon.
Regards
David
 
The 27th Iowa served in the western theater. There was a 43 year-old "Wagoner" in Company A captured on 7/3/1863.

Roster & Record of Iowa Soldiers in the War of Rebellion says your ancestor was indeed wounded on 7/3/1863, and the "Wagoner" captured the same day, but doesn't say where.

Twenty-seventh Infantry IOWA
(3 years)

Twenty-seventh Infantry. Col., James Gilbert Lieut.-Col., Jed
Lake; Maj., George W. Howard.

This regiment was organized in the summer of 1862 and was
mustered in Oct. 3. A week later it reported to Maj.-Gen.
Pope, commanding the Department of the Northwest, to take part
in the campaign against the Indians, who were waging war
against the settlers of Minnesota.

Upon reaching St. Paul it went into quarters at Fort Snelling,
and soon after Col. Gilbert, accompanied by six companies of
the regiment, proceeded to Mille Lac, to superintend the
payment of the annuity to the tribe at that point. In the
meantime Maj. Howard had been ordered to report at Cairo, IL,
with the remaining four companies and had departed for that
place. Col. Gilbert received similar orders on his return
from Mille Lac and moved at once.

The regiment went into camp at Memphis but soon moved on the
expedition into central Mississippi, marched to the
Tallahatchie River, and was assigned to the duty of guarding
the Mississippi Central railway between that point and the
town of Waterford. In December a small band of cavalry made a
dash on the regimental hospital, captured 11 men and hurried
them across the country 15 miles, when, finding them unable to
proceed, the officer in command paroled them and turned them
loose.

The regiment went to Jackson and marched with the other forces
to assist Gen. Sullivan, who was in a fight with Forrest
beyond Lexington, but failed to reach him in time to take part
in the fray or even to overtake the flying enemy, who was in
retreat for Clinton. It spent the winter at Jackson,
suffering greatly from sickness, the result of the last
campaign which was made without blankets or rations. The
regiment held the post at Corinth part of April, and was then
posted in detachments at various points along the railway from
Jackson with Col. Gilbert in command of the post at that
place.

In June it moved to Lagrange, thence to Moscow, and performed
similar duties near that place for two months, having frequent
skirmishes with guerrillas. In August it formed part of a
detached brigade which went to the support of Gen. Steele,
then moving on Little Rock, and took part in the capture of
that place. It remained there on guard and picket duty until
Nov. 15, when it moved to Memphis and went into quarters until
Jan. 26, 1864.

It then proceeded to Vicksburg and was assigned to the 2nd
brigade, 3rd division, 16th corps, with which it took part in
the Meridian raid and returned March 4. It accompanied the
Red River expedition a few days later and was in numerous
skirmishes and battles of that movement. At Pleasant Hill it
lost 88 in killed and wounded, and it formed a part of the
force that covered the retreat from Grand Ecore to Alexandria,
almost constantly skirmishing on the way. It was also engaged
at Marksville and Yellow bayou. It accompanied the forces
under Smith, which dislodged Marmaduke from his position at
Lake Chicot and then went into camp at Memphis.

It was heavily engaged at Tupelo, and at the battle of Old
Town Creek on the following day it took a prominent part.
Returning to Memphis, it joined the Oxford expedition, after
which it proceeded to Jefferson barracks, Mo. It accompanied
an expedition through the state in the early part of October,
in pursuit of Price, as far as Little Santa Fe on the Arkansas
line, but returned without having had a fight.

It accompanied Smith's forces to Nashville, where it took
position in the line of defenses and was active in the battle
in December. Col. Gilbert was in command of the brigade and
its work was such as to win for him a commission as brigadier-
general soon after. The regiment lost 61 but inflicted much
greater damage on the enemy. In the pursuit it moved to
Pulaski, thence to Clifton and Eastport and Feb. 9, embarked
for Dauphin island, Ala.

It took part in the operations about Mobile, aided in the
siege of Fort Blakely, was in the final assault when its
brigade captured 8 pieces of artillery and 600 prisoners.
Gen. Gilbert was afterwards brevetted major-general for his
skillful conduct in this affair. With its brigade the
regiment was assigned duty in garrison work, but was soon
after sent to Montgomery where it remained for two months and
was mustered out in July, 1865, when its recruits were
transferred to the veteran 12th IA

Source: The Union Army, vol. 4

*********************************************************************************
Going through all his paperwork, there is no dispute that he was wounded at Gettysburg. Were Henry and the wagoneer traveling together? if so why were they at gettysburg and not with the rest of the unit?
 
I am searching for information about a relative of mine, Pvt Henry Greineisen of the Iowa 27th infantry Co. G. Henry's military records indicate that he was shot in the leg during the battle at gettysburg. He applied for a pension but never received it. I sent away for his pension records but have not received them yet.
1. Why was a soldier from the Iowa 27th doing at gettysburg, when the rest of his unit was elsewhere guarding union payroll trains. Was he a sniper or someone with special skills?
2. As Henry's only living relative, I want to find out where he is buried and ensure he gets the respect and honor he deserves.
Thank you
Bill Greineisen GySgt. USMC (ret)

View attachment 303083
 
Going through all his paperwork, there is no dispute that he was wounded at Gettysburg. Were Henry and the wagoneer traveling together? if so why were they at gettysburg and not with the rest of the unit?

From March to August, 1863, the 27th Iowa was part of the 3rd Brigade 3rd Division, 16th Corps Army of the Tennessee. The Army of the Potomac fought at Gettysburg. There's no reason I can think of that two of their members would be at Gettysburg. Is there any reason given in Henry's paperwork why he didn't receive a pension ?
 
From March to August, 1863, the 27th Iowa was part of the 3rd Brigade 3rd Division, 16th Corps Army of the Tennessee. The Army of the Potomac fought at Gettysburg. There's no reason I can think of that two of their members would be at Gettysburg. Is there any reason given in Henry's paperwork why he didn't receive a pension ?
I sent away for the pension records but have not received them yet. There is nothing that I can find as to why he did not receive his pension.
 
Seems very odd that a guy from a totally different army would be at Gettysburg. I realize documents state that he was wounded at Gettysburg but some times soldiers embellished their record to make it seem like they were at battles that were famous (for example I was researching soldiers and I found some documents for one man who said he was at First Bull Run, Antietam, Gettysburg, and Chickamauga. In fact the man didn't enlist until 1864)
It is also possible that he was engaged in some action on July 3,1863 and some clerk somewhere assumed it was Gettysburg.
Third he could have been there and been assigned as an orderly or support personnel. His service records might be able to tell you if he was on detached service
 
Are you aware of this site ? https://www.findagrave.com/ Might be a good idea to try various spellings of his last name.
Are you aware of this site ? https://www.findagrave.com/ Might be a good idea to try various spellings of his last name.
Yes, thank you. I have tried that but no luck. I'm hoping his pension files will reveal some clue. I also signed up for a month of Ancestry .com to maybe shed some light.
 
Seems very odd that a guy from a totally different army would be at Gettysburg. I realize documents state that he was wounded at Gettysburg but some times soldiers embellished their record to make it seem like they were at battles that were famous (for example I was researching soldiers and I found some documents for one man who said he was at First Bull Run, Antietam, Gettysburg, and Chickamauga. In fact the man didn't enlist until 1864)
It is also possible that he was engaged in some action on July 3,1863 and some clerk somewhere assumed it was Gettysburg.
Third he could have been there and been assigned as an orderly or support personnel. His service records might be able to tell you if he was on detached service
Great answer. Thank you so much.. Of course I really hope Henry was not making this stuff up. I have his mil records and all indications seem to indicate that he was indeed wounded at Gettysburg. I don't see anything about special detachments but than again the records themselves don't give much info as to the individual soldiers movements from camp to camp. Is there somewhere I can research the morning muster rolls for the unit to see if Henry was on the rolls with the rest of the unit and when he stopped appearing on units the morning muster, AND maybe if I get lucky, maybe commanders notes as to detached soldiers?
Thank you and Aloha for all you help.
 
When I researched the service of ancestors and relatives through National Archives, the Company Muster Rolls were included. Those reports were for two month time frames and reflected illnesses, a discharge due to poor health, transfer to the Veterans Reserve Corps and death. Fortunately I did my research when the charges for copies of records ran $17-25. I heard a few years ago, the charges start at $75. A number of my ancestors had short terms of service, thus not a lot of records to copy.

It seems those muster rolls would clear up a lot for you.
 

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