Interesting

[War Horse]

So just to pull the nazi card... Hitler was honorable because he stuck to his principles?
That is basically what you are saying.

That is absolutely not what I am saying. Davis believed the right to leave the Union was not unconstitutional, as a matter of fact the Confederates thought they were upholding the original forefathers belief's. There is no comparison here to Hitler what-so-ever.

 

[War Horse]

As a matter of fact, when was Hitler ever thrown in prison and shackled and deprived of conversation. Never, the coward elected to take his own life when his cause was lost. No comparison what-so-ever.

 

[thomas aagaard]

You are saying that a man who stick to his principles is honorable... without any requirement to what the principles are.

Iam saying that your way of defining honor makes no sense...

Hitler was thrown into prison and still stuck to his principles... he even wrote a book about them.
Or we can look at some of the other nazi leaders that was prosecuted at Nuremberg... most of them never admitted that they where wrong...

So by your definition they where Honorable men... since they stuck to their principles.

 

[War Horse]

I am not defining honor in anyone's case other than Davis. I could care less about Hitler or any of the Nazi's. This is an ACW forum. Hitler was thrown into prison as a nut, which he was! His name should never come up on this site. If you look I'm sure there are sites to discuss this. Till this day, Davis's belief that seceding from the Union has not been proven to be illegal. That's why he was not hung.

 

[War Horse]

Or is it hanged, Lol

 

[ole]

F U N E N E X?
S I F X.
FUNENEM?
SIFM.
ILHVMNX.

It is hanged, War Horse. LOL.

 

[FarawayFriend]

I am not defining honor in anyone's case other than Davis. I could care less about Hitler or any of the Nazi's. This is an ACW forum. Hitler was thrown into prison as a nut, which he was! His name should never come up on this site. If you look I'm sure there are sites to discuss this. Till this day, Davis's belief that seceding from the Union has not been proven to be illegal. That's why he was not hung.

Thank you @War Horse! Now Adolf is even hauting this forum. In Germany you can have no decent discussion about anything because someone will always pull the Nazi card. I could not agree more that Davis' case has nothing to do with the things the Nazis stood for.
And I can only repeat it, why is it that the people then were able to forgive, but some of us, more than 150 years later cannot?

 

[thomas aagaard]

So because politics got in the way and he was never tried... he is off the hook?
Davis was so sure that he was right that he started a war to prove the point...
And he was so Honorable that he never admitted that he might have been wrong.
Sound like a fanatic to me...

Attacking a Federal fort is illegal. Waging war on the US is illegal.
The act of secession might not in it self be illegal, but the actions that followed where.

 

[yellowthornoftexas]

Comparing Davis to Hitler is like comparing apples to oranges! Hitler, true vile. There's a few Yankee "leaders" that were much more "vile", but I'm not going there.

 

[jgoodguy]

Thread closed pending moderator review.
Throw the hitler card and get a free staff intervention.