Interesting looking possible uniform?

[squog]

I am unsure if this is where this type of posts belongs, since it is my first one.
This is in the Museum of the Cherokee People, North Carolina.
This image takes good notice to me due to the interesting looking (what I believe to be) uniform on the right side.
I would love if anyone had any information about this uniform. I believe it is in the exhibit of the 69th NC Infantry Regiment, known as Thomas' Legion.

Images from thomaslegion.net and Flickr.

 

[JOHN42768]

Welcome, enjoy

 

[Michael C. Hardy]

Welcome! Glad to see the flag back up. While it has been a while since I have been in the museum, I thought this was a smoking jacket or something like that. As an aside, Thomas' Legion and the 69th NC are not the same organization. Thomas' Legion never had a numerical designation. The 69th NC, also known as the 7th NC Cavalry, was under the command of Col. Robert L. Coleman.

 

[13 IL Cav & 64 GA Inf]

I am unsure if this is where this type of posts belongs, since it is my first one.
This is in the Museum of the Cherokee People, North Carolina.
This image takes good notice to me due to the interesting looking (what I believe to be) uniform on the right side.
I would love if anyone had any information about this uniform. I believe it is in the exhibit of the 69th NC Infantry Regiment, known as Thomas' Legion.
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Images from thomaslegion.net and Flickr.
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I don't have any information about this, but DO want to Welcome YOU to CWT. Learn, contribute your thoughts, and Enjoy!

 

[scooter748driver]

Welcome from the Fort Sumter and the Fredericksburg forums.

I don't have any information on the uniform, but it almost looks like a colonial uniform jacket that has had tribal accents added.

 

[SethJ]

Some small "1 minute" research.

Considering the image, clearly it was (or was mostly) an Indian battalion. @scooter748driver made the note it looks like it has tribal accents.
To be fair, I can't speak for how accurate the site I recieved the information from is. I'll drop the link so our real experts can take a look at it.

(Site is not "secured" so do with that what you will)
http://www.thomaslegion.net/#google_vignette

welcome to the site squog, and may you enjoy your time among fellow enthusiasts.
love the profile picture by the way!

 

[Michael C. Hardy]

Some small "1 minute" research.

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Considering the image, clearly it was (or was mostly) an Indian battalion. @scooter748driver made the note it looks like it has tribal accents.
To be fair, I can't speak for how accurate the site I recieved the information from is. I'll drop the link so our real experts can take a look at it.

(Site is not "secured" so do with that what you will)
http://www.thomaslegion.net/#google_vignette

welcome to the site squog, and may you enjoy your time among fellow enthusiasts.
love the profile picture by the way!

The Indian Battalion was rather small, in comparison to the Infantry regiment, Walker's Battalion, the artillery battery.

 

[Trooper "D"]

I am unsure if this is where this type of posts belongs, since it is my first one.
This is in the Museum of the Cherokee People, North Carolina.
This image takes good notice to me due to the interesting looking (what I believe to be) uniform on the right side.
I would love if anyone had any information about this uniform. I believe it is in the exhibit of the 69th NC Infantry Regiment, known as Thomas' Legion.
View attachment 545646

Images from thomaslegion.net and Flickr.
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Thanks for the subject matter. Welcome.
Cheers!

 

[Story]

69th Regiment, North Carolina troops
written by W.W. Stringfield - the last field officer of the 69th/Thomas' Legion​

This command was originally intended for local defense in the mountains of East Tennessee and Western North Carolina, and was generally known as part of "Thomas' Legion of Indians and highlanders." Colonel W. H. Thomas, its founder, was an old-line Democrat, and a leading citizen and politician in Western North Carolina--was a man of considerable means, and was personally well known to President Davis and Cabinet. The was born in Haywood county and raised to manhood close by the Cherokee Indians and at an early day espoused their cause, and prevented the forced removal to the West, of hose in Western North Carolina, by General Scott in 1836 to 1838. The was adopted by the Indians and upon the deaths of their old chiefs, Yona-gus-kee find Juna-lus-kee, the was made chief and for twenty-five years prior to the war was also the Government Agent for where Indians.

When the war had progressed for a year and conscription had become a necessity and a certainty, this command was organized at Knoxville, Tenn., into a regiment and a battalion.

The Sixty-ninth Regiment

 

[squog]

Welcome! Glad to see the flag back up. While it has been a while since I have been in the museum, I thought this was a smoking jacket or something like that. As an aside, Thomas' Legion and the 69th NC are not the same organization. Thomas' Legion never had a numerical designation. The 69th NC, also known as the 7th NC Cavalry, was under the command of Col. Robert L. Coleman.

Huh, I thought I saw it referred as so somewhere, Thank you for clearing this up

 

[TallTallMan]

Welcome!

 

[Klaudly]

Regarding the numbering of North Carolina units, I have this table from the 51st Regiment.

 

[Story]

Huh, I thought I saw it referred as so somewhere, Thank you for clearing this up

And yet Stringfield, who was in the unit, refers to it as such

Interesting looking possible uniform? | Ranks, Uniforms, Clothing, & Gear

I am unsure if this is where this type of posts belongs, since it is my first one. This is in the Museum of the Cherokee People, North Carolina. This image takes good notice to me due to the interesting looking (what I believe to be) uniform on the right side. I would love if anyone had any...

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[Michael C. Hardy]

And yet Stringfield, who was in the unit, refers to it as such

Interesting looking possible uniform? | Ranks, Uniforms, Clothing, & Gear

I am unsure if this is where this type of posts belongs, since it is my first one. This is in the Museum of the Cherokee People, North Carolina. This image takes good notice to me due to the interesting looking (what I believe to be) uniform on the right side. I would love if anyone had any...

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Yep. And he was wrong.

 

[Story]

Yep. And he was wrong.

He. Was. In. The. Unit.

 

[Michael C. Hardy]

He. Was. In. The. Unit.

No, he was not. He was in Thomas's Legion. It is not clear if he made the mistake, or if Walter Clark, who edited the series, made the mistake. I suggest you check out Vernon Crow's Storm in the Mountains: Thomas's Confederate Legion of Cherokee Indians and Mountains or Volume 16 of the North Carolina Troops, 1861-1865, published by the North Carolina Division of Archives and History. Both go into great detail about how the Thomas's Legion and the 69th North Carolina are not the same organization. Plus, if you look at the Compiled Service Records from the National Archives, Stringfield's cards appear in the records of Thomas's Legion, not the records of the 69th North Carolina.

 

[Klaudly]

If the Legion and the 69th are two separate units, and the 69th is Col. Robert L. Coleman's 7th Cavalry, in the North Carolina regiment list, is the 75th the 8th Cavalry? There was a Col. John T. Kennedy regiment as listed in Walter Clark's book

 

[Michael C. Hardy]

If the Legion and the 69th are two separate units, and the 69th is Col. Robert L. Coleman's 7th Cavalry, in the North Carolina regiment list, is the 75th the 8th Cavalry? There was a Col. John T. Kennedy regiment as listed in Walter Clark's book

John Thomas Kennedy in volume 2 of the NC Troop book series is listed as being lieutenant colonel of the 62nd Georgia Cavalry before transferring to the 16th Battalion North Carolina Cavalry. The Troop book series does not list a 8th NC Cavalry, only the 8th Battalion NC Partisan Rangers, which were under the command of Maj. John H. Nethercutt. Interestingly enough, the 12th Battalion NC Cavalry were under Kennedy's command for a time in August 1863 to March 1864. The 12th Battalion was then sent to the 8th Confederate Command under Dearing. Kennedy writes in Volume 4 of Clarks that the 8th was created, and he was colonel, but was wounded before taking command.

 

[NC43rd]

The 8th NC partisan rangers, ultimately go turned into the 66th NCT.