How far did they get?

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Hey guys!

New member here and I have some questions to ask. I watched the 26th North Carolina battlefield walk video on YouTube the other day. In it, the park ranger makes a claim that Meredith and the Iron Brigade made it as far as Herr ridge before meeting Pettigrew's men and getting pushed back. He says he has documents to support this claim and he displays a map (clearly made by him or the park service) showing the advance. Now I don't know everything, but I've found no evidence of this anywhere. Pfanz's Gettysburg: the first day suggests the furthest the western men advanced was willoughby run. Can anyone shed light on this? Similarly, I've got questions about how far Rans Wright advanced on the second day. Did he actually get to Cemetery Ridge? I'd like to think so, but the only real evidence to support that seems to be Wright's own report.
 
Hey guys!

New member here and I have some questions to ask. I watched the 26th North Carolina battlefield walk video on YouTube the other day. In it, the park ranger makes a claim that Meredith and the Iron Brigade made it as far as Herr ridge before meeting Pettigrew's men and getting pushed back. He says he has documents to support this claim and he displays a map (clearly made by him or the park service) showing the advance. Now I don't know everything, but I've found no evidence of this anywhere. Pfanz's Gettysburg: the first day suggests the furthest the western men advanced was willoughby run. Can anyone shed light on this? Similarly, I've got questions about how far Rans Wright advanced on the second day. Did he actually get to Cemetery Ridge? I'd like to think so, but the only real evidence to support that seems to be Wright's own report.

I would have to see the evidence that the Iron Brigade pushed all the way to Herr Ridge.

Wright pushed back the skirmishers, regiments, and battery back from the Emmittsburg Road and advanced on the stone wall. The 48th and most of the 3rd Georgia were stopped by the regiments in the vicinity of the the Copse and just to the North while elements of the 3rd and the 22nd Georgia broke over the wall to the south of the 7th Michigan, in the area vacated by the 42nd New York and 19th Massachusetts when they were ordered further south. The breakthrough only lasted a few moments as elements of Stannard's Vermont Brigade pushed them back over thr wall.

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I would have to see the evidence that the Iron Brigade pushed all the way to Herr Ridge.

Wright pushed back the skirmishers, regiments, and battery back from the Emmittsburg Road and advanced on the stone wall. The 48th and most of the 3rd Georgia were stopped by the regiments in the vicinity of the the Copse and just to the North while elements of the 3rd and the 22nd Georgia broke over the wall to the south of the 7th Michigan, in the area vacated by the 42nd New York and 19th Massachusetts when they were ordered further south. The breakthrough only lasted a few moments as elements of Stannard's Vermont Brigade pushed them back over thr wall.

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Here is the video I was referring to. Skip to about 13:20.
 
What I've always wondered about is that the first attack on Cemetary Ridge on July 2nd had to leave casualties strewn about the field of the attack used by Pickett the next day, but you never hear about them advancing over the dead Georgians and Carolinians. It would be interesting to see if some documentation exists that refers to that.

oh, and welcome aboard from sunny (f0r now) Kirkland Washington
 
I can't imagine anybody from the Iron Brigade advancing to Herr's ridge .

The 19th Indiana & 24th Michigan swung around to overlap the exposed Confederate right flank so they most likely were advancing to the north towards the enemy crowded west of the Willoughby . Color bearer Abe Buckles from the 19th was well beyond the run when ordered to , " Come back with that flag " .

The 2nd Wisconsin halted at " the ravine " and were busy taking prisnors . Many were still being hit by stray shots in spite of " no rebel being in sight anywhere "and reformed their line " in the woods " and were ordered to " lie down " .

Given the punishment absorbed by the 2nd & 7th Wisconsin in the first few minutes they must have been more than happy to have cleared the rebels from their front and round up Archer's surviving men before straying too far from the protection of the woods .
 
I have posted portions of the battle report of Colonel William Robinson (OR Series 1, Volume XXVII, Part 1, Page 278), commander of the 7th Wisconsin concerning his regiments actions on the first day. Robinson mentions crossing the small rivulet running through the ravine in front of the 7th and advancing to the top of the hill on the other side during the morning of the 1st. If you look at maps of that area there is a hill on the west side of Willoughby Run, but the ground drops into a swale before rising again to the top of Herr's Ridge. Robinson indicates his men were only on the hill a short time before withdrawing under orders. The Emanuel Harman farm, a little further south of the same hill, was occupied by a couple of New York infantry companies at this time. Colonel Henry Morrow of the 24th Michigan also mentioned advancing to the top of the hill in his report.

At 2:30 p.m. +/- Pettigrew's men cleared the Harman Farm before the main Confederate attack on the 1st Corps along McPherson's Ridge. IMO the Iron Brigade never reached the top of Herr's Ridge. They briefly occupied the unnamed hill in front and had returned to the east side of Willoughby Run before Pettigrew took position. I cannot say if the hill on the west bank is considered part of Herr's Ridge.

HEADQUARTERS SEVENTH WISCONSIN VOLUNTEERS,
November 18, 1863.

Capt. J. D. WOOD,
Assistant Adjutant-General, First Brigade.

SIR: I have the honor to submit the following report of the part taken by the Seventh Regiment Wisconsin Volunteer Infantry, under my command, in the engagement at Gettysburg on July 1: .....

In the meantime the Second Wisconsin--which was next in front of me in column, in its evolution into line was formed to my right and the length of the battalion in advance; this threw them behind the grove before mentioned, into which they advanced without halting--had engaged the enemy. My right was now resting near this grove, with the Nineteenth and Twenty-fourth on my left. Immediately in [front], and running parallel to and about 200 yards from my front, was a ravine, through which runs a small rivulet; from this ravine a heavy fire was opened. I was at first uncertain, in the dense smoke and from the near proximity of the fire, whether it was the enemy or the left wing of the Second Wisconsin.

At this moment Captain Wadsworth, of the division staff, rode up from the right. I asked could he tell what troops those were firing in the ravine. He pointed a little farther to the left up the ravine (where I saw the rebel battle-flag), and said it was the enemy, and that the general directed that we should drive them out. I moved the line forward to the crest of the ridge, delivered a volley, and gave the order to charge. The three regiments--Seventh Wisconsin, Nineteenth Indiana, and Twenty-fourth Michigan--rushed into the ravine with a yell. The enemy--what was left of them able to walk--threw down their arms, ducked through between our files, and passed to the rear. We moved up the opposite bank to the top of the hill, where I halted the line. In this charge we passed by and beyond the position occupied by the Second Wisconsin in the grove. We had occupied our new position but a few minutes when Captain Richardson, of the brigade staff, brought an order to change front to the rear on the left battalion. While this evolution was being executed, General Meredith came up, and directed me to place my regiment in the grove on the right of the Second. I took the position indicated, my right resting on the open fields, and threw out skirmishers to the front. In this position we lay some hours under a severe artillery fire. From my position I could see the movements of the enemy in our front. .....

Respectfully, your obedient servant,
W. W. ROBINSON,
Colonel, Commanding Seventh Wisconsin Volunteers.
 

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