Help identifying image

[Enoch L. Cade]

Hello folks. Happy to be here and to seek the help of the wise people on this board.

One of my sources for genealogical research is FamilySearch, the genealogical web site assembled by the Mormons. God bless 'em, they send teams to every church and parish in the world, it seems, to copy birth/baptism records which are then entered into a database. I think there is some sort of data scrubbing/quality control. Anyway, it's helpful.

Someone there attached the picture (attached) to the record for my ancestor James Mickleberry Holloway, a resident of Alabama (he's seated front/center, holding what appears to be a saber). I suspect this is a photo of a United Confederate Veterans reunion. The service records on Fold3 list a number of James Holloways or J.M. Holloway.

He was born in Georgia in 1822, died in Alabama in 1875. That makes him about 39 when the war began. There's several records for a JM Holloway in Fold3; I think he may be the one who served as a private in the 62nd Infantry (reserves).

Anyway, appreciate any light anyone could shed on this picture. Separately, is there a database somewhere of Civil War era soldier photos? I mean the sort of portrait that so many of them obtained in city studios.

Thanks,

 

[lupaglupa]

Do you know where in Alabama he lived after the War? That might help locate the original image, especially if it was in a newspaper. I have seen similar photos that were published in local papers.

 

[UCVRelics]

Hello folks. Happy to be here and to seek the help of the wise people on this board.

One of my sources for genealogical research is FamilySearch, the genealogical web site assembled by the Mormons. God bless 'em, they send teams to every church and parish in the world, it seems, to copy birth/baptism records which are then entered into a database. I think there is some sort of data scrubbing/quality control. Anyway, it's helpful.

Someone there attached the picture (attached) to the record for my ancestor James Mickleberry Holloway, a resident of Alabama (he's seated front/center, holding what appears to be a saber). I suspect this is a photo of a United Confederate Veterans reunion. The service records on Fold3 list a number of James Holloways or J.M. Holloway.

He was born in Georgia in 1822, died in Alabama in 1875. That makes him about 39 when the war began. There's several records for a JM Holloway in Fold3; I think he may be the one who served as a private in the 62nd Infantry (reserves).

Anyway, appreciate any light anyone could shed on this picture. Separately, is there a database somewhere of Civil War era soldier photos? I mean the sort of portrait that so many of them obtained in city studios.

Thanks,

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I believe this photo was taken at one of Alabama's CS Soldiers home.

 

[Lubliner]

I am not much help when it comes to ancestry, but I had a meeting with a 'Mickle' one day in Chattanooga that was involved in civil war artifacts. The middle name of your ancestor could have been shortened to this, including him in a branch of your family tree.
Lubliner.

 

[Bruce Vail]

Yeah, God Bless the Mormons. If I am lucky, they will baptise me too after I'm dead, even though I lost my magic underwear a drunken frat party in the 1970s....

 

[steamboater]

Hello folks. Happy to be here and to seek the help of the wise people on this board.

One of my sources for genealogical research is FamilySearch, the genealogical web site assembled by the Mormons. God bless 'em, they send teams to every church and parish in the world, it seems, to copy birth/baptism records which are then entered into a database. I think there is some sort of data scrubbing/quality control. Anyway, it's helpful.

Someone there attached the picture (attached) to the record for my ancestor James Mickleberry Holloway, a resident of Alabama (he's seated front/center, holding what appears to be a saber). I suspect this is a photo of a United Confederate Veterans reunion. The service records on Fold3 list a number of James Holloways or J.M. Holloway.

He was born in Georgia in 1822, died in Alabama in 1875. That makes him about 39 when the war began. There's several records for a JM Holloway in Fold3; I think he may be the one who served as a private in the 62nd Infantry (reserves).

Anyway, appreciate any light anyone could shed on this picture. Separately, is there a database somewhere of Civil War era soldier photos? I mean the sort of portrait that so many of them obtained in city studios.

Thanks,

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Where did you come up with a record for James Holloway in the AL 62nd reserves? Both the NPS and civilwardata list a James M. Holliway. Plus, the description of the soldiers are lads of 16 through 18 who were that age at the 1864 forming of the unit. No mention of any old timers.

 

[Enoch L. Cade]

Where did you come up with a record for James Holloway in the AL 62nd reserves? Both the NPS and civilwardata list a James M. Holliway. Plus, the description of the soldiers are lads of 16 through 18 who were that age at the 1864 forming of the unit. No mention of any old timers.

Hey there and thanks for the reply. I found it in Fold3, the Alabama records.

 

[Enoch L. Cade]

I am not much help when it comes to ancestry, but I had a meeting with a 'Mickle' one day in Chattanooga that was involved in civil war artifacts. The middle name of your ancestor could have been shortened to this, including him in a branch of your family tree.
Lubliner.

Mickleberry is an interesting name. It is derived from Anglo-Saxon, "Mickle"= strong and "berry" is a form of "burgh" which means "Fort."

 

[Enoch L. Cade]

Do you know where in Alabama he lived after the War? That might help locate the original image, especially if it was in a newspaper. I have seen similar photos that were published in local papers.

He would have been in the Birmingham area, I think.

 

[Story]

He would have been in the Birmingham area, I think.

Did you check the 1860 and 1870 Federal Census?

Chances are you'll find him in Aiken in the 1860 Census, as his son was born there the next year, a few weeks after the war started.

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[Story]

He was born in Georgia in 1822, died in Alabama in 1875. That makes him about 39 when the war began. There's several records for a JM Holloway in Fold3; I think he may be the one who served as a private in the 62nd Infantry (reserves).

1) FOLD3 usually has unit descriptions at the beginning of each Regimental folder, to help differentiate *which* unit they're referencing. This is important since

2) as I understand it those Confederate rosters were reconstructed during a post-war letter-writing campaign between Confederate veterans, data-mining their memories as to who was in which outfit.

3) figuring out these nutrolls can be maddening. As an example, see Jim Martin's narrative on this forum

Re: 62nd Ala Inf Co A

 

[Story]

Someone there attached the picture (attached) to the record for my ancestor James Mickleberry Holloway, a resident of Alabama (he's seated front/center, holding what appears to be a saber). 2)

He was born in Georgia in 1822, died in Alabama in 1875. That makes him about 39 when the war began. 1)

Anyway, appreciate any light anyone could shed on this picture. Separately, is there a database somewhere of Civil War era soldier photos? 3)

I believe this photo was taken at one of Alabama's CS Soldiers home. 2)

1) If this was taken prior to 1875, he'd be about 60. Note that the men around him appear to be well north of that age*.

* I know, I crack myself up as well.​

2) When did Confederate Veteran organizations start to activate? The United Confederate Veterans didn't form until 1889, 25 ish years after the war when the average age of those vets would have been around 45. Someone in the peanut gallery will correct me if I'm wrong, but the first Confederate Veteran Home wasn't built until Atlanta 1890, right? Alabama's Confederate Memorial Park was 1902.

Confederate Memorial Park

3) Just to be the Devil's Advocate, this photo *may* have been taken in the early 20th century.

So.​

One option would be to reach out to Ron Coddington of MILITARY IMAGES and see if he recognizes the group photo - chances are someone else might be looking for information on one of the other guys and the answers you seek have already been answered in a different format. http://militaryimagesmagazine.com/tag/ron-coddington/

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Here's a larger resolution image, from the FindAGrave entry [shrinks below, go directly to the URL below to get the best DPI]

Photos of James Holloway - Find a Grave Memorial

THis is the closest cemetary match to the information I have. My info is: Buried at Old Mulberry Church near Aiken, AL.

www.findagrave.com

 

[Story]

One trick we had when looking for targets out in the dark woods was to squint and look to the side of where you think your target was hiding.

Let's focus on the upper right corner.

It might be worth starting a thread in the Ladys' Tea for experts to weigh in on*when* her dress was in vogue, unless @donna can hip shoot that one over her first cup of coffee.

 

[Enoch L. Cade]

1) If this was taken prior to 1875, he'd be about 60. Note that the men around him appear to be well north of that age*.

* I know, I crack myself up as well.​

2) When did Confederate Veteran organizations start to activate? The United Confederate Veterans didn't form until 1889, 25 ish years after the war when the average age of those vets would have been around 45. Someone in the peanut gallery will correct me if I'm wrong, but the first Confederate Veteran Home wasn't built until Atlanta 1890, right? Alabama's Confederate Memorial Park was 1902.

Confederate Memorial Park

3) Just to be the Devil's Advocate, this photo *may* have been taken in the early 20th century.

So.​

One option would be to reach out to Ron Coddington of MILITARY IMAGES and see if he recognizes the group photo - chances are someone else might be looking for information on one of the other guys and the answers you seek have already been answered in a different format. http://militaryimagesmagazine.com/tag/ron-coddington/

Here's a larger resolution image, from the FindAGrave entry [shrinks below, go directly to the URL below to get the best DPI]

Photos of James Holloway - Find a Grave Memorial

THis is the closest cemetary match to the information I have. My info is: Buried at Old Mulberry Church near Aiken, AL.

www.findagrave.com

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Thanks you! this is incredibly helpful. Right now, I've been pretty much guessing and shooting in the dark. I got some experience in research when helping with a Confederate grave marking project in Houston, but I need all the help and guidance I can get. Great idea about when the lady's dress was in vogue. It may not have been a Confederate veterans reunion; that was really something of a guess.

 

[donna]

The hat of the lady maybe key to fashion. It hard to make out. I need more than one cup of coffee for this one.

 

[Old Soldier]

The hat of the lady maybe key to fashion. It hard to make out. I need more than one cup of coffee for this one.

Try around 1900.

 

[Story]

Thanks you! this is incredibly helpful. Right now, I've been pretty much guessing and shooting in the dark. I got some experience in research when helping with a Confederate grave marking project in Houston, but I need all the help and guidance I can get. Great idea about when the lady's dress was in vogue. It may not have been a Confederate veterans reunion; that was really something of a guess.

When you have little to work with, it's totally cromulent to throw out a hypothesis and see what sticks.

 

[Reconstructed Rebel]

Try around 1900.

Yep. I have a picture of Main Street in my hometown in 1902 and all the ladies on the street are wearing hats that look like that.