Grant Grant Under Fire: A Question

[David Moore]

I'll just add anyone could have done what I did but it takes time, persistence, some economic commitment and an understanding family.
Research libraries in this country are amazingly accessible. No need for letters of certification or official credentials. It's been quite a rewarding adventure.

 

[Skeptical Advocate]

I'll just add anyone could have done what I did but it takes time, persistence, some economic commitment and an understanding family.
Research libraries in this country are amazingly accessible. No need for letters of certification or official credentials. It's been quite a rewarding adventure.

Good to hear.

 

[Booklady]

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As a bystander and up to this point silent witness to this thread, I can't help myself: I find it astonishing, insulting, offensive, and deserving a sharp rebuke (actually it deserves a smack in the face) that you can claim with an evident metaphorical straight face that -- with all the trained academics, authors, historians, NPS volunteers and trained staff members, self-taught serious students, reenactors, high school, middle, and elementary school teachers, and regular little people with everyday lives who are here because they are interested -- CivilWarTalk is "for the most part not a serious site."

You need to apologize.

 

[Belfoured]

As a bystander and up to this point silent witness to this thread, I can't help myself: I find it astonishing, insulting, offensive, and deserving a sharp rebuke (actually it deserves a smack in the face) that you can claim with an evident metaphorical straight face that -- with all the trained academics, authors, historians, NPS volunteers and trained staff members, self-taught serious students, reenactors, high school, middle, and elementary school teachers, and regular little people with everyday lives who are here because they are interested -- CivilWarTalk is "for the most part not a serious site."

You need to apologize.

Unfortunately, he has made assumptions in past threads regarding the ability of posters using handles to do many things - for only one example, accessing repositories/archives and conducting competent research. All without knowing anything about them. Anybody who accesses this site regularly knows that there is significant knowledge and experience in a wide range of areas from a wide range of backgrounds among the membership.

 

[Josh The Lighthouse Guy]

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I'm not sure if "serious" is the right word. Given how few people care about any subject (especially history) enough to spend time discussing it in a forum of any kind, any CWT member has a level of interest well above average.

Many of the forums regulars have significant knowledge about various aspects of the war.

What most people on this site find it hard to respect is people whose interest in a subject seems limited to partisanship about a specific individual, whether for or against. Those folks are certainly serious - usually downright obsessive. Such behavior is deeply off-putting.

 

[TallTallMan]

I've given my opinion that this site for the most part is not a serious site - therefore not beneficial- when it comes to Grant.

"Not a serious site"? You must come here even less than you claim.

 

[Booklady]

Unfortunately, he has made assumptions in past threads regarding the ability of posters using handles to do many things - for only one example, accessing repositories/archives and conducting competent research. All without knowing anything about them. Anybody who accesses this site regularly knows that there is significant knowledge and experience in a wide range of areas from a wide range of backgrounds among the membership.

I see. Thank you for the explanation. I get it now (I guess).

 

[TallTallMan]

I've learned a lot from this forum in the 2 3/4ths years I've been on. It's only bad for those who think they know everything to begin with.

1 3/4th, not 2 3/4th years. My mistake. Math was never my strong point

 

[Belfoured]

I see. Thank you for the explanation. I get it now (I guess).

Another way to put it is that there's nothing to "get" that has any merit.

 

[Skeptical Advocate]

As a bystander and up to this point silent witness to this thread, I can't help myself: I find it astonishing, insulting, offensive, and deserving a sharp rebuke (actually it deserves a smack in the face) that you can claim with an evident metaphorical straight face that -- with all the trained academics, authors, historians, NPS volunteers and trained staff members, self-taught serious students, reenactors, high school, middle, and elementary school teachers, and regular little people with everyday lives who are here because they are interested -- CivilWarTalk is "for the most part not a serious site."

You need to apologize.

Bravo!

However, if Mr. Moore wishes to insult people on an online platform while at the same time imploring them to buy his book (since he rarely ranges far beyond certain subjects dear to his heart), well, that's an interesting approach to marketing and gaining influence. We've seen another author depart recently because people called him out on his scholarship, attitude, approach, and behavior.

Take him seriously by not taking him seriously. What you said needed to be said. Thank you.

 

[unionblue]

1 3/4th, not 2 3/4th years. My mistake. Math was never my strong point

I've been on this forum for over 30 years (began way back in '93 or thereabouts), and I learn something new here all the time.

The members make this place a gold mine of information.

 

[David Moore]

As a bystander and up to this point silent witness to this thread, I can't help myself: I find it astonishing, insulting, offensive, and deserving a sharp rebuke (actually it deserves a smack in the face) that you can claim with an evident metaphorical straight face that -- with all the trained academics, authors, historians, NPS volunteers and trained staff members, self-taught serious students, reenactors, high school, middle, and elementary school teachers, and regular little people with everyday lives who are here because they are interested -- CivilWarTalk is "for the most part not a serious site."

You need to apologize.

I said about Grant.

 

[David Moore]

I said about Grant. I have been on the receiving on attacks.

 

[JAB]

Lincoln, Stanton and mainly Halleck were controlling the armies. If memory serves me right Halleck remarked that giving a command to a general like McClerndan was tantamount to murder. Events demonstrated Halleck was right. And that is why Stanton gave permission to Grant to relieve anyone in his command. Grant waited until the risk was minimal, he had the Vicksburg garrison in a victory grip. Thus Lincoln's friend McClerndan was relieved in two steps.

McClernand

 

[genbeau]

There is a strong union bias on this platform among the most active commenters. I don't know if it represents the general membership however.