Gettysburg battlefield

[Mike Serpa]

Does anyone know anything about this photo. There seems to be a monument on the left. Nothing remarkable on the sign. A link is provide if one wants to look at the larger version but it didn't help me see anything.

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2012647714/

• Title: Gettysburg, battlefield of, Scene of Pickett's charge, 974
• Date Created/Published: [photographed between 1861 and 1865, printed between 1880 and 1889]
• Medium: 1 photographic print on card mount : gelatin silver.
• Reproduction Number: LC-DIG-ppmsca-32848 (digital file from original item) LC-B8184-7974 (b&w film copy neg.)

 

[101combatvet]

Looks like the 19th Mass monument on Hancock Ave.

 

[AUG]

Nevermind.

Edit: Looking back at the picture, I agree with some of the people below that the photo is indeed looking South West and that is the the Cadori Farm in the background. The Copse of Trees is to the left.

 

[Yankeedave]

area of Lee's July 3rd Charge?

 

[Getty150]

Here is the monument on 5 October 2012:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/63027303@N06/sets/72157631657614273/


Dave

 

[reading48]

To me. If you were North of the angle, looking South West. That seems to be the Codori farm house in the distance..Could be wrong..

 

[Lefty]

I'll bet my boots that the monument is the 106th PA. (The copse of trees is right behind/south of it.)
If my memory serves me correct there is a granite drum on top.

That wooden sign there marks the location of Arnold's Rhode Island battery.
The sign is at the "reverse/inverse" part of the infamous stone wall at the Angle.

The 19th Mass. monument is further south and out of the photo.
Reading48 is also correct...that is the Codori place.

 

[Mike Serpa]

Any chance it the 7th Mass.? Erected same year as 19th Mass. Has different proportions than 19th. And slant of face is not as steep.

http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMC4K8_7th_Massachusetts_Infantry_Monument_Gettysburg_PA

 

[Lefty]

Any chance it the 7th Mass.? Erected same year as 19th Mass. Has different proportions than 19th. And slant of face is not as steep.
View attachment 10575
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMC4K8_7th_Massachusetts_Infantry_Monument_Gettysburg_PA

Mike,
The 7th Mass. monument is about 3/4+ of a mile or so south of the Angle/Copse. I'm familiar with the current surroundings of the 7th Mass. monument on Sedgwick Avenue and they do not fit with your original photo. (Post #1)

I'm pretty certain that my assumptions two posts prior to this one (Post #7) are indeed correct as to what & where the original photo portrays.

The more I look at the photo the more convinced I am that the monument is the 106th PA monument just north of the copse of trees and that the "sign post" indicates Arnold's battery position at the inverse portion of the "Angle". The section of the Park avenue depicted in the original photo is most certainly Hancock Avenue south of the Cyclorama and north of the Copse.

 

[FrazierC]

Agreed; the picture is looking south west, and taken just in the rear of Arnold's battery; but I believe the monument in the right middle distance is the John Bachelder High Water Mark monument, that now stands behind (east) of the Clump of Trees. Anyone know what the small monument in the right middle distance is? (near the present location of the 72 Pn. monument, just below the Codori farm?)

 

[Lefty]

Agreed; the picture is looking south west, and taken just in the rear of Arnold's battery; but I believe the monument in the right middle distance is the John Bachelder High Water Mark monument, that now stands behind (east) of the Clump of Trees. Anyone know what the small monument in the right middle distance is? (near the present location of the 72 Pn. monument, just below the Codori farm?)

Hey FrazierC,
Good stuff here. You have a good grasp of the battlefield!

IMHO....The monument in the right middle distance appears to be the original 72nd PA monument. It has since been moved about 75 yds to the east, closer to Hancock Avenue. The version of the 72nd PA with the infamous clubbed musket now stands on the original site of the less modest original 72nd PA monument. (I hope that made sense? There are currently two 72nd PA monument in the Angle area.)

As for Bachelder's High Water Mark Tablet (circa. 1895?)..........I'm wondering if you are confusing it with the 106th PA monument. (As you probably know....There are also two 106th PA monuments. One on the Emmitsburg Road and one at the Copse/Angle area.) Could somebody supply a view or better yet...... a panoramic view of the 106th PA monument near the copse of trees? The High Water mark tablet sits, as FrazierC noted, immediately east of the copse. The 106th PA sits just northeast of the copse. (Monument Dedication dates are the key but I'm currently with the sufficient data.)

Quite the semi psuedo-mystery we have here. For some reason, I'm leaning toward the 106th PA as opposed to the High Water mark monument mainly due to their respective proximities to the Copse?

 

[FrazierC]

Hey FrazierC,
Good stuff here. You have a good grasp of the battlefield!

IMHO....The monument in the right middle distance appears to be the original 72nd PA monument. It has since been moved about 75 yds to the east, closer to Hancock Avenue. The version of the 72nd PA with the infamous clubbed musket now stands on the original site of the less modest original 72nd PA monument. (I hope that made sense? There are currently two 72nd PA monument in the Angle area.)

As for Bachelder's High Water Mark Tablet (circa. 1895?)..........I'm wondering if you are confusing it with the 106th PA monument. (As you probably know....There are also two 106th PA monuments. One on the Emmitsburg Road and one at the Copse/Angle area.) Could somebody supply a view or better yet...... a panoramic view of the 106th PA monument near the copse of trees? The High Water mark tablet sits, as FrazierC noted, immediately east of the copse. The 106th PA sits just northeast of the copse. (Monument Dedication dates are the key but I'm currently with the sufficient data.)

Quite the semi psuedo-mystery we have here. For some reason, I'm leaning toward the 106th PA as opposed to the High Water mark monument mainly due to their respective proximities to the Copse?

Ah, okay. I think I see what you're saying. I had no idea there was an original 72 Pennsylvania monument; thanks for the info!
Also, I believe you're correct that the other monument appears to be the 106th. I'll look into it more; thanks!

 

[Lefty]

Yeah FrazierC....all we need is a panoramic photo of the 106th PA.
Thing is....the camera would have to be looking south from the area of the 14th CT etc.
I think we got it though. Good work!

 

[noman]

This appeared in "Battles and Leaders of the Civil War" Vol III .p. 388
CLump of trees for Pictures charge is at left-the monumnet is of Webb Brigade of Gibbons Division {2nd Corps} near wear Alexander Webb was wounded; Armistead was killed in Middle foreground-Cordi's house on right-picture by W.H. Tipon
http://books.google.com/books?id=Rp...wGkj4GwAw&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

[Ken Rich]

Looks like the 19th Mass monument on Hancock Ave.

I'm with 101 on this , 19Ma before GBMA moved the monuments into brigade lines . A copy of this photo was auctioned recently. Look at the copses of trees and how far west it is. For dedication dates some are on Stone Sentinels http://www.stonesentinels.com/

 

[M E Wolf]

Does anyone know anything about this photo. There seems to be a monument on the left. Nothing remarkable on the sign. A link is provide if one wants to look at the larger version but it didn't help me see anything.
View attachment 10564

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2012647714/

• Title: Gettysburg, battlefield of, Scene of Pickett's charge, 974
• Date Created/Published: [photographed between 1861 and 1865, printed between 1880 and 1889]
• Medium: 1 photographic print on card mount : gelatin silver.
• Reproduction Number: LC-DIG-ppmsca-32848 (digital file from original item) LC-B8184-7974 (b&w film copy neg.)

Looking at the memorial in addition to the barn in the background...

M. E. Wolf

 

[reading48]

To me. If you were North of the angle, looking South West. That seems to be the Codori farm house in the distance..Could be wrong..

 

[Patrick H]

The monument is not facing in the same direction in the early photo and the post #5 photo. The face of the monument in post #5 is turned away from the Codori barn. In the original, it is turned approximately 90 degrees counterclockwise to the post #5 photo. Either the monument has been moved, re-oriented for some reason, or these are two similar monuments.

I haven't see the monuments in person, so I'm only commenting on the differences I see in the two photos.

 

[chubachus]

This appeared in "Battles and Leaders of the Civil War" Vol III .p. 388
CLump of trees for Pictures charge is at left-the monumnet is of Webb Brigade of Gibbons Division {2nd Corps} near wear Alexander Webb was wounded; Armistead was killed in Middle foreground-Cordi's house on right-picture by W.H. Tipon
http://books.google.com/books?id=Rp...wGkj4GwAw&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Great find: