German Workers Dot Org?

[JPK Huson 1863]

The ' dot org ' thing is a joke- you just know there'd be a website in 2014.

This photo might not be ' Of the war ' but it's of the era- and have no clue to what they might be referring? It's titled a ' German Workers Organization ', although got the idea it's immigrants, not Germans posing in their home country?

Apologize if that isn't the case- once again bit on Pinterest. It was included in an ' Occupational ' grouping which kept exclusively to 1800's America. I know German communities here tended to function for generations as if they were not very far from their village in the Old Country- heck, loved going to the post office in Gratz, PA. If you took your time there 20 years ago, could hear the older folks passing the time of day in PA Dutch. Not Amish- just Germans whose ancestors came there an awfully long time ago. Really nice.

 

[Pat Young]

The ' dot org ' thing is a joke- you just know there'd be a website in 2014.

This photo might not be ' Of the war ' but it's of the era- and have no clue to what they might be referring? It's titled a ' German Workers Organization ', although got the idea it's immigrants, not Germans posing in their home country?

Apologize if that isn't the case- once again bit on Pinterest. It was included in an ' Occupational ' grouping which kept exclusively to 1800's America. I know German communities here tended to function for generations as if they were not very far from their village in the Old Country- heck, loved going to the post office in Gratz, PA. If you took your time there 20 years ago, could hear the older folks passing the time of day in PA Dutch. Not Amish- just Germans whose ancestors came there an awfully long time ago. Really nice.

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I wonder if it is a Turner group or if it is a union's militia.

 

[major bill]

Can we get a time range from the photograph? Before the Civil War many Germans formed themselves into "rifle clubs" or "shooting clubs". These clubs often wore uniforms, marched in parades and that type of thing. I have some material on them including a few images.

Many militia companies concentrated on marching and having social event and rarely if ever fired their weapons, German shooting clubs where formed for shooting rifles. They would form up and march to the location of the rife contest and have marksmanship contests. Usually eating and beer drinking was engaged in in addition to seeing who was the best shoot. They would march back home and often go to a beer house and drink some more. Some German shooting clubs were like unofficial militia companies, other clubs were more like picnic clubs who drank a lot of beer and would have limited shooting contests. Please note some states did not allow ethic militia companies and some German shooting clubs were an attempt to get around this no ethnic militia company rule and were unofficial militia companies.

 

[101combatvet]

Schützenverein

However these guys look like they are members of a Jägerverein.

 

[John Hartwell]

The gentleman front, left, looks to be powerful-crosseyed! How might that affect his marksmanship?
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[101combatvet]

I will add that they may also be all brothers.

 

[FarawayFriend]

Schützenverein

Hahaa, yes!!
Big tradition here. In Hannover you will find the biggest "Schützenfest" on earth, that's something our city is very proud of. And beer is at least as important as shooting.
And parading (that's our city hall in the background):

(From: http://www.schalmeienzug-osterhagen.de/fotos.html)

 

[101combatvet]

Hahaa, yes!!
Big tradition here. In Hannover you will find the biggest "Schützenfest" on earth, that's something our city is very proud of. And beer is at least as important as shooting.
And parading (that's our city hall in the background):

(From: http://www.schalmeienzug-osterhagen.de/fotos.html)

I never made it to Hanover, but I was very close. A small village something __dorf, been awhile.

Barnstorf, Germany

 

[JPK Huson 1863]

Can we get a time range from the photograph? Before the Civil War many Germans formed themselves into "rifle clubs" or "shooting clubs". These clubs often wore uniforms, marched in parades and that type of thing. I have some material on them including a few images.

Many militia companies concentrated on marching and having social event and rarely if ever fired their weapons, German shooting clubs where formed for shooting rifles. They would form up and march to the location of the rife contest and have marksmanship contests. Usually eating and beer drinking was engaged in in addition to seeing who was the best shoot. They would march back home and often go to a beer house and drink some more. Some German shooting clubs were like unofficial militia companies, other clubs were more like picnic clubs who drank a lot of beer and would have limited shooting contests. Please note some states did not allow ethic militia companies and some German shooting clubs were an attempt to get around this no ethnic militia company rule and were unofficial militia companies.

It's Pinterest so take it with possible salt, but think it said just pre-war? Some posters there are extremely meticulous, others extremely careless. Interesting, that some of these clubs were an excuse for another type of club- you could see that and what a shame it was like that! Oh well, at least they managed to achieve a way to hang out together plus it gave us a terrific photo!

The gentleman front, left, looks to be powerful-crosseyed! How might that affect his marksmanship?
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I'm a decent shot ( It's a massacre around here at the Annual Easter Egg Shoot. We shoot the eggs after Easter dinner instead of letting them collect dust for the next 2 weeks )- not being cross-eyed, wouldn't know what it would be like to shoot it I were? Perhaps it is like a lot of other things, where one learns to compensate, you know? Does someone who has this manner of sight have the ability to focus their eyes independently? If so, would have to think this guy would be able to shoot as well as anybody. Hee- having said that, someone who knows a lot more than me is going to jump in here with the RIGHT answer, wait for it.

 

[JPK Huson 1863]

Hahaa, yes!!
Big tradition here. In Hannover you will find the biggest "Schützenfest" on earth, that's something our city is very proud of. And beer is at least as important as shooting.
And parading (that's our city hall in the background):

(From: http://www.schalmeienzug-osterhagen.de/fotos.html)

I had beer somewhere in Germany once- only bring this up because it was the largest amount of beer in one vessel I'd ever seen- and I grew up in the 70's. Also the largest radish was served with it- someone told me I was supposed to EAT it, not use it for weaponry. ' In Muchenstate ein Hofbruhause, einse, zwei, gesuffe '- that place, only spelled correctly.

 

[Mark F. Jenkins]

For some reason I read "dot org" as "hot dog." I must be ready for a weekend cookout.

 

[101combatvet]

Hahaa, yes!!
Big tradition here. In Hannover you will find the biggest "Schützenfest" on earth, that's something our city is very proud of. And beer is at least as important as shooting.
And parading (that's our city hall in the background):

(From: http://www.schalmeienzug-osterhagen.de/fotos.html)

I shoot a Feinwerkbau, I think I'll join.

 

[major bill]

It's Pinterest so take it with possible salt, but think it said just pre-war?

No, if I had to guess I would go with post Civil War. I think the weapons would tell the time frame.

 

[major bill]

A German shooting club member. Note he could pass as a militiaman.

 

[JPK Huson 1863]

View attachment 45624 A German shooting club member. Note he could pass as a militiaman.

What is it which shows he could pass for a militia man, please? The entire uniform with hat and gun or something more specific?

 

[major bill]

The trim on the collar and cuff is very similar to the trim on the frock coat trim according to the 1850 regulations. In the 1850s many state militia more or less based their uniforms on the 1850 regulations. The use of gray was very common in many state militia companies. Brass buttons were common in militia companies, less so on other jackets. The turned up brim on the hat and the feather is sort of military style. However very few militia companies would have used this type of rifle. German style militia rifle companies normally would be expected to have a large knife.

 

[Pat Young]

The trim on the collar and cuff is very similar to the trim on the frock coat trim according to the 1850 regulations. In the 1850s many state militia more or less based their uniforms on the 1850 regulations. The use of gray was very common in many state militia companies. Brass buttons were common in militia companies, less so on other jackets. The turned up brim on the hat and the feather is sort of military style. However very few militia companies would have used this type of rifle. German style militia rifle companies normally would be expected to have a large knife.

Great info!

 

[Mike Serpa]

wikicommons say they are in Brasil.
Daguerreotype of three German hunters in Bahia, 1848.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/19th_Century_photography_in_Brazil

(They be four but wikipedia say three.)

 

[FarawayFriend]

wikicommons say they are in Brasil.
Daguerreotype of three German hunters in Bahia, 1848.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/19th_Century_photography_in_Brazil

(They be four but wikipedia say three.)

Three Germans and one Brazilian, maybe.
Or would you ever doubt the credibility of Wikipedia??

 

[Mike Serpa]

Three Germans and one Brazilian, maybe.
Or would you ever doubt the credibility of Wikipedia??

You are so right. One Brazilian. I never thought of that! The one in the left rear?