General Ashby's Sword

gjpratt

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I am a LOOONG time lurker who finally decided to register and post. I hope this is the correct place for the post. The tipping point for me was using the information on this board to pinpoint the location where a Confederate officer was mortally wounded at the Battle of Thompson's Station. I grew up in Middle Tennessee. For as long as I can remember I have been fascinated with a sword pictured in one of Wm. Albaugh's Confederate Swords reference book. It is a College Hill officer saber with an inscription to Tennessee soldier A.A. Dysart. Some time ago I spotted an obscure reference in a Confederate Veteran issue to the spot where Dysart was shot and died. At the time of the publication, it was identified as a tree in the yard of a house of a named resident hard by the pike (Nashville-Columbia Pike). The house and family are long gone. But there was enough information here, together with a recent map of the battle, to locate the spot with great accuracy. Most of the information was in threads about Alice Thompson (IIRC).

So now I have another mystery and I am putting it out to the incredible collective wisdom of members here. In a catalog of items on display at a Sanitary Fair in 1864, it lists the "Sword of the Rebel General Turner Ashby," taken by Col. Mix by the 3d NY Cavalry in a skirmish near Winchester March 10, 1862. But I cannot find much if any corroboration of this event. There is no mention of this incident at all in any of the biographies of Ashby. I suppose that it would not be included in any pro-Ashby accounts if true. But I also have to believe that any person or unit that captured such an important war trophy would have proudly boasted about it. If so, I can't find it. There is no report of this skirmish that I can find in the ORs. But the 3d NY Cav was in the vicinity on that date and there is an order on March 9 directing action in the direction of Winchester the next day. There is a Col Mix in the 3d NYC -- actually 2 (brothers I believe). And the 3d NYC was no longer in the Valley in June when Ashby was killed so there is not a possibility of a confused date.

Can anyone shed any more light on this small historical footnote? Any idea if this sword is in a museum somewhere?
 
Welcome from THE Heart Of Dixie. Those are some tall orders hopefully some of our cracker jack research folks can help. paging @lelliott19 and @east tennessee roots
 
I am a LOOONG time lurker who finally decided to register and post. I hope this is the correct place for the post. The tipping point for me was using the information on this board to pinpoint the location where a Confederate officer was mortally wounded at the Battle of Thompson's Station. I grew up in Middle Tennessee. For as long as I can remember I have been fascinated with a sword pictured in one of Wm. Albaugh's Confederate Swords reference book. It is a College Hill officer saber with an inscription to Tennessee soldier A.A. Dysart. Some time ago I spotted an obscure reference in a Confederate Veteran issue to the spot where Dysart was shot and died. At the time of the publication, it was identified as a tree in the yard of a house of a named resident hard by the pike (Nashville-Columbia Pike). The house and family are long gone. But there was enough information here, together with a recent map of the battle, to locate the spot with great accuracy. Most of the information was in threads about Alice Thompson (IIRC).

So now I have another mystery and I am putting it out to the incredible collective wisdom of members here. In a catalog of items on display at a Sanitary Fair in 1864, it lists the "Sword of the Rebel General Turner Ashby," taken by Col. Mix by the 3d NY Cavalry in a skirmish near Winchester March 10, 1862. But I cannot find much if any corroboration of this event. There is no mention of this incident at all in any of the biographies of Ashby. I suppose that it would not be included in any pro-Ashby accounts if true. But I also have to believe that any person or unit that captured such an important war trophy would have proudly boasted about it. If so, I can't find it. There is no report of this skirmish that I can find in the ORs. But the 3d NY Cav was in the vicinity on that date and there is an order on March 9 directing action in the direction of Winchester the next day. There is a Col Mix in the 3d NYC -- actually 2 (brothers I believe). And the 3d NYC was no longer in the Valley in June when Ashby was killed so there is not a possibility of a confused date.

Can anyone shed any more light on this small historical footnote? Any idea if this sword is in a museum somewhere?

Welcome ! Could this be your Colonel Mix ? The other, (Lieutenant-Colonel) John Mix, resigned in December, 1862 and transferred to the 2nd U.S. Cavalry. (American Civil War Research Database). Nothing in the regiments history I could find about the sword incident.

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Simon H. Mix

Residence was not listed; a 36 year-old Printer.

Enlisted on 8/16/1861 at Washington, DC as a Lieut Colonel.

On 8/16/1861 he was commissioned into Field & Staff NY 3rd Cavalry
He died wounds POW on 6/15/1864 at Petersburg, VA
(Mortally wounded leading a charge)


He was listed as:
* POW 6/15/1864 Petersburg, VA
* Wounded 6/15/1864 Petersburg, VA


Promotions:
* Colonel 4/26/1862


Other Information:
born in Fulton County, NY


(Son of Peter Mix of Schoharie, NY)
 
Well, dang, what a perfect request you have made! I am most sorry to report that I can't help you, but I will be watching your thread with great interest, because I'd like to know the answer, too! While you and I are waiting for the experts to chime in, please allow me to welcome you from Missouri.
 
It is a perplexing entry in that catalog for the exhibition of several collections.
https://books.google.com/books?id=FoYvAAAAYAAJ

Page 22 item 122

I note there is also a flag deposited by Mix at the same time.

Some years ago I had pondered Ashby's sword as shown with him in militia garb. That sword appears to be an eagle pommel of an earlier period, not a sword I would expect him to have used during the war but we may never know. Since Ashby was then moving upward in command on the 12th, how is it he lost a sword on the 10th?

There were more of the Ashby family in the war as well, so maybe the confusion is greater than what was believed. Someone may have passed the sword onto Mix after the March 10th action and that someone relating the sword as from someone of Ashby's command.

As an aside, accounts of captured weapons are sometimes quite precise and inventoried, other times not so much. In particular it was in reading about Sherman's troops advancing on Atlanta.

Cheers
GC
 

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