vikingbear
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- Jul 12, 2014
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- New Hampshire
Reading about those ironclads from south america reminded me of this.
In Church's Bio of J. Ericsson, he records that JE said that " if the US was threatened by a outside war he would design a ironclad gunboat (1862?) that would operate in sq's that would drive away any attacking force."
Futher searching reveled a lot of coast defense proposals to the Union (from RR transported steam gunboats to Monitor turrets mounted on land) but nothing further about these armored gunboats. However later in the book it is reported that JE told Sweden the same thing,
So........a review of Swedish Mon's showed that all (execpt a smaller river ironclad gunboat and that might be a Swedish version of the orginal design) of these early monitors JE had a hand in the designing of them. The 10 Russian monitors were modifications of the orginal USN design and it is not known what the Denmark version or South American version specks were.
The theory is, that these Swedish designs would be similar to USN versions if built. So................
The 3 Swedish John Ericsson & 3 Skorplonen (Norway built) classes were USN types.
The smaller Monitors are the ones am interested in.
The coast defense class "Berserk " 130'x26x8; 1 fixed casemate with 1 9.4 mlr. (one has gun fixer aft).
(the hull of one of these is still in Sweden)
and the smaller river/canal gb's; Garmer ; Skold,' Fenris,
There is also a crew powered design of which have a profile of''.
There also seems to b e a Erie canal Monitor, 1-15'' sb.
So does any one know about the designs for the USN?
and (probally a John question) about those 10 similar fixed turret monitors from sweden?
GRIZZ
In Church's Bio of J. Ericsson, he records that JE said that " if the US was threatened by a outside war he would design a ironclad gunboat (1862?) that would operate in sq's that would drive away any attacking force."
Futher searching reveled a lot of coast defense proposals to the Union (from RR transported steam gunboats to Monitor turrets mounted on land) but nothing further about these armored gunboats. However later in the book it is reported that JE told Sweden the same thing,
So........a review of Swedish Mon's showed that all (execpt a smaller river ironclad gunboat and that might be a Swedish version of the orginal design) of these early monitors JE had a hand in the designing of them. The 10 Russian monitors were modifications of the orginal USN design and it is not known what the Denmark version or South American version specks were.
The theory is, that these Swedish designs would be similar to USN versions if built. So................
The 3 Swedish John Ericsson & 3 Skorplonen (Norway built) classes were USN types.
The smaller Monitors are the ones am interested in.
The coast defense class "Berserk " 130'x26x8; 1 fixed casemate with 1 9.4 mlr. (one has gun fixer aft).
(the hull of one of these is still in Sweden)
and the smaller river/canal gb's; Garmer ; Skold,' Fenris,
There is also a crew powered design of which have a profile of''.
There also seems to b e a Erie canal Monitor, 1-15'' sb.
So does any one know about the designs for the USN?
and (probally a John question) about those 10 similar fixed turret monitors from sweden?
GRIZZ