Elizabeth Temms

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THE CRUELTY of this war.

The former Confederate soldier asked only one thing as death grew closer in a Federal prison in Louisville, Kentucky two years after the War had ended. The simple request, "bury me with my people" was apparently ignored by those in charge of the remains, who surely knew where "home" was.

No common soldier, the requester was ultimately determined to be one Elizabeth Temms, the wife of George W. Temms, a soldier from Gordon County, Georgia. She had dressed herself in a soldier's uniform and left Calhoun in a volunteer company of a Capt. Kinman, which had been raised in that county at the outbreak of the War.

Apparently she was arrested by the Federal authorities on her own farm, and taken to the prison at 12th and Broadway in Louisville, Kentucky, where she would ultimately die.
Sherman's march across the South was in full swing, and she learned that the enemy was approaching and was able to alert the Southern troops and attempt to thwart the advance. For this she was summarily seized along with others deemed spies, and thrown in prison.

Ice House Cell
Sherman disliked anyone who was a Southern sympathizer, and for Elizabeth Temms, he agreed she would be put in the old ice house of the prison. The well-known Dr. Mary Walker was in the area, and the idea of segregating Mrs. Temms to the frigid ice house was said to have been Walker's idea. Her death was attributed to pneumonia, doubtless from her cold surroundings, on October 1 or 2, 1867.

Since the War ended in 1865, there is no explanation of why she was still imprisoned two years later.

Elizabeth Temms was bitter in her total hatred of the Northerners; she had left at home several small children who she would never see again. She was with the troops for some time before her gender was discovered and after her death, she was simply buried in the large Confederate section in the beautifully maintained Cave Hill Cemetery in Louisville, Kentucky, where she rests to this day.
It was said that her grave was always nicely kept and that a number of unknown individuals saw to it that fresh flowers always decorated the grave.

Husband did survive
Did she wish to be returned to the red clay soil of her native Georgia? Or was she intending to be buried among the soldiers with whom she had served? Apparently it was more expedient to use the Louisville facility, and there she lies. The assumption at the time a newspaper article came out on February 8, 1894, was that her husband had likely not survived the war, but in fact he did.
Later on May 26, 1889, a Dr. H.L. Flake wrote the paper with this information:

"While attending the decoration to-day of the Confederate graves in Cave Hill Cemetery, I found among the number of Confederate soldiers buried there one Elizabeth Temms, who masked herself, and fought under the Confederate flag, and died here Oct. 2st 1867, and the inscription on the stone was that she was born in Calhoun, Ga., died at the age of 28 years, and her last words were, "Bury me with my people."

"These few lines may be a relief to some of her dear relatives,
if you will be so kind as to make inquiry, or have same published in some of your Georgia papers.

And if any further particulars are required, write me, and I will give them with pleasure."

The letter had its desired effect and several weeks later, her husband, then living in North Carolina, saw a copy of it and write to thank the editor for the first information he had had of his wife since the war. "Her children," he wrote, "who were left behind when she was carried away by the troops, have since grown to manhood and womanhood, and learned for the first time the pathetic story of their mother's death."
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What in blazes was she doing in prison two years after the war ended? TWO years? Did this occur elsewhere?

I can't find anything before the 1900's. Local papers would have something- should be some archives. I know Dr. Mary had been frustrated because she was put in charge of female prisoners instead given duties in hospitals and at the front. The female prisoners were not happy with such an eccentric, complaining they wanted a male doctor.No idea if that was Kentucky?

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1954, Kentucky

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1902, also Kentucky
 
Hope the part about Dr. Mary being part of the whole abysmal thing isn't true. She was arrested herself for crossing lines to aid civilians.. Seems uncharacteristic of her, at least what we know of her.

Still would like to know why Temmes was held for so long? Two years post war, prisoners were home trying to pick up the pieces of their lives.
 
George W(ashington) and Elizabeth Timms are listed in the 1860 US census as living in Oothcalooga, Gordon, Georgia, Calhoun Post Office. They have two daughters living at home in 1860 one ten months and one six years old. George is listed as a day labourer, Elizabeth as a domestic.
George enlisted in Company G, Georgia 21st Infantry Regiment on 04 Jul 1861 and was mustered out on 09 Apr 1865 at Appomattox Court House, VA.
After the war he remarried. He returned to South Carolina, where he was born, and died there in 1908. There is no mention of the girls, so goodness knows what happened to them.www.findagrave.com/memorial/22936991/george-washington-timms
Her name was Timms, not Temms, so no wonder no one could find her family.
 
The idea the Sherman hated Southern sympathizers and specifically singled Timms out for confinement in the Icehouse in Louisville KY while he was campaigning in Georgia seems farfetched.
 
The idea the Sherman hated Southern sympathizers and specifically singled Timms out for confinement in the Icehouse in Louisville KY while he was campaigning in Georgia seems farfetched.
With no offence meant to the poster, I take nothing in these reports at face value. There are so many conflicts within the text and the newspaper articles about Elizabeth that it is impossible to know much about her other than her name and that she died in 1864.
 
More info concerning the cemetery and Elizabeth Timms (in bold):

CAVE HILL CONFEDERATE CEMETERY, LOUISVILLE, JEFFERSON COUNTY, KENTUCKY

The military prison was located on Broadway, between Tenth and Eleventh. A
facility for female civilian prisoners was established at Broadway and Twelfth (some
female prisoners were also kept at Barracks No. 2, a facility for paroled US soldiers
on Main between Seventh and Eighth). The sick and wounded prisoners were treated at a
prison hospital co-located with the prison buildings (Military Hospital No. 2), or at
one of the branches of the Eruptive General Hospital (established to treat cases of
contagious diseases).

The first Confederate prisoners seem to have arrived in Louisville shortly after
the capture of Fort Donelson in February 1862, and hospital deaths started to mount
with the influx of prisoners from the battle of Shiloh in April 1862. The local
military authorities did not want the Confederates to be buried with the Federal dead
in Cave Hill Cemetery, so Elijah Lyter Huffman and Samuel S. Hamilton, local Southern
sympathizers, purchased several lots for the Confederate dead. These became Lots 246-
267 in Section "O." In the early 1890s, Lot 2671/2 and its adjacent Addition were set
aside for burial of Confederate veterans (a few veterans had previously been buried in
empty spaces among the war time burials and at the ends of rows in Lots 246-267).

In spite of the prevailing wish not to bury Confederates in the Federal section,
which became the Cave Hill National Cemetery, at least 45 Confederate soldiers and
civilian political prisoners are buried in the National Cemetery. These are listed
here, and described in detail in Part II.
------------------------------

It must be emphasized that the typed listings of the Confederate sections held in
the Cave Hill Cemetery office date from the early 1900s, and whatever manuscripts were
used to develop them are now apparently lost. Since many of the grave stone markings
differ rather greatly from the information on any of the listings, there must have been
another source, also apparently lost, used to develop these when the present stone
markers replaced the original wooden markers (circa 1880).

In the case of the wartime burials, the DEATH DATE given is usually the actual
date of death, taken from the Louisville Military Prison records, the grave markers
themselves, and the 1912 POW register. For those veterans who died after the war and
are buried in the Confederate lots, with markers that do not show the date of death,
the DEATH DATE is actually the date of burial, taken from the typed Cave Hill lists.

A sketch of the history of Cave Hill Cemetery, with references for further study, can
be found in Samuel W. Thomas' Cave Hill Cemetery: A Pictorial Guide and Its History
(Louisville, 1985).
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Elizabeth Timms (CS Lot 263, grave 13) was a civilian from Gordon Co., Georgia, who was arrested in 1864 for refusing to take the oath of allegiance, and brought to Louisville. She was supposedly imprisoned in an icehouse by Dr. Mary Walker, U.S. Army, where she contracted pneumonia and died. The year of death on her grave marker is 1867, but she is believed to have died in 1864 (the soldiers adjacent to her died in October and November 1864). See Confederate Veteran, Vol. 23, No. 10 (October 1915), page 445; Louisville Courier-Journal, June 4, 1954, p. 2-1; Rules and Regulations ...of Cave Hill Cemetery (1868), p. 39; 1860 Gordon Co. Census.

The UNKNOWN buried in CS Lot 263, grave 14, is thought to be Elizabeth Timms' nephew

(Rules and Regulations ... of Cave Hill Cemetery (1868), p. 39). The grave stone is
unmarked. Likewise, the stones on CS Lot 262, grave 101, and CS Lot 267, grave 66
(listed as UNKNOWN) are unmarked. There is no marker on CS Lot 246, grave 59, which is
listed as UNKNOWN in Cave Hill Cemetery records.

http://files.usgwarchives.net/ky/jefferson/cemeteries/cavehill.txt
 
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George W(ashington) and Elizabeth Timms are listed in the 1860 US census as living in Oothcalooga, Gordon, Georgia, Calhoun Post Office. They have two daughters living at home in 1860 one ten months and one six years old. George is listed as a day labourer, Elizabeth as a domestic.
George enlisted in Company G, Georgia 21st Infantry Regiment on 04 Jul 1861 and was mustered out on 09 Apr 1865 at Appomattox Court House, VA.
After the war he remarried. He returned to South Carolina, where he was born, and died there in 1908. There is no mention of the girls, so goodness knows what happened to them.www.findagrave.com/memorial/22936991/george-washington-timms
Her name was Timms, not Temms, so no wonder no one could find her family.
Good research, but something is not correct here on findagrave. On findagrave George Washington Timm's first son by Mary Jane Richey Timm (second wife) is listed as William W. Timm born in 1864. If this date is correct it means George fathered a son by his his second wife while Elizabeth Temm/Timm (first wife) was alive and in prison in Kentucky. The story fits well only if William (first son) was born 1865- 1868. (Note second son John Thomas Timm was born in 1869.)
 
Good research, but something is not correct here on findagrave. On findagrave George Washington Timm's first son by Mary Jane Richey Timm (second wife) is listed as William W. Timm born in 1864. If this date is correct it means George fathered a son by his his second wife while Elizabeth Temm/Timm (first wife) was alive and in prison in Kentucky. The story fits well only if William (first son) was born 1865- 1868. (Note second son John Thomas Timm was born in 1869.)
I researched that too and William was born in 1867 according to the 1880 census. Mary Jane Richey Timms was born in South Carolina, so I am guessing that after the war he went back to South Carolina as he couldn't find his wife and daughters, and remarried.
 

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