Does anyone recognize this rifle?

[Wraith_3]

This is in my dad's collection, though I'm not sure if it's CW. It doesn't have any markings on it. I was thinking maybe it was just made by a local gunsmith (wherever "local" would have been. I'm using my dad's photos and he doesn't have one overall picture. It's between 4-5ft long. Looking at the barrel, I'm not even sure if it's a rifle. It looks like a smooth bore.

 

[BartlbyAdams]

This is in my dad's collection, though I'm not sure if it's CW. It doesn't have any markings on it. I was thinking maybe it was just made by a local gunsmith (wherever "local" would have been. I'm using my dad's photos and he doesn't have one overall picture. It's between 4-5ft long. Looking at the barrel, I'm not even sure if it's a rifle. It looks like a smooth bore.

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Beautiful firearm whatever it is!

 

[Conquerordie]

Looks kinda like a Frank Wesson boxlock. It should be rifled, heavy barrel, double set triggers, all characteristics of a bench rifle

 

[AvengeSouthernConfederacy]

I suggest looking for a serial number on the barrel or gun company name on it. beautiful firearm either way!

 

[Patrick H]

I agree the first couple of inches at the muzzle look smoothbore, but I'll bet this is a rifle. It should be easy to determine with a bore scope, and there should be shooting enthusiasts or collectors in your circle of acquaintance who will know who could help you with that. It looks to me like this was a fairly elegant piece in its day--with nice lines and engraving here and there. I like the cap box.

 

[R. Porter]

The gun appears to have traits of a match rifle, but the lack of obvious rifling is a bit concerning. The trigger guard looks rather unique and should be a tip-off. Pedersoli makes a version of a match rifle originally made by Tryon with this same trigger guard. The presence of a set trigger implies that accuracy was desired which suggests a rifled barrel. One image shows what appear to be tool marks on the barrel and fore stock, so perhaps the barrel is a replacement.

The Pedersoli has the same trigger guard, a set trigger, similar patch box, and octagonal barrel but otherwise is not a match:

Muzzle Loading Rifles model Tryon "match" Rifle

Davide Pedersoli sells and produces reproductions of Muzzle Loading Rifles such as Tryon "match" Rifle of the product line Tryon

www.davidepedersoli.com

Is there a Tryon rifle that matches? You may have to comb through old advertisements to find out. My guess is that this is a match rifle from the mid to late 19th century, possibly by Tryon or using Tryon parts.

My disclaimer is that I am not an expert or even a knowledgeable amateur.

 

[Papabyrd]

Could also be a Hopkins & Allen (or whoever Allen was in partnership with at the time) Allen made a lot of single shot Rifles in his day.

 

[R. Porter]

There are similarities to the Allen Thurber & Co. Deluxe Side Hammer Target Rifle, but the trigger guard, stock and patch box are not the same:

Allen Overview – Rifles and Shotguns

www.bpgcollector.com

 

[R. Porter]

There are also some similarities to a match rifle by George P. Foster of Bristol, RI:

Geo. P. Foster Percussion Rifle - Bristol RI

G. P. Foster percussion rifle. Walnut stock, steel octagon barrel, original ram rod. Bristol, Rhode Island, circa 1850. Total: L 44-3/8". Barrel: L 27-3/4". Condition: No damage noted. Link to hi-res images...

www.bidsquare.com

But this Foster rifle appears to be a match, dating to 1855:

RARE Antique G.P. FOSTER Percussion Rifle in .38

RARE Antique G.P. FOSTER Percussion Rifle in .38 for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

 

[Wraith_3]

Thanks for all the tips to look into! I'll have to get it out when I'm over at my mom's and check for rifling farther down. I've never heard of a rifle not having rifling all the way through, but I'm not an expert.

 

[Wraith_3]

I suggest looking for a serial number on the barrel or gun company name on it. beautiful firearm either way!

No markings of any kind that I can see.

 

[on again]

looks like a gunsmith rifle...or a fancy target rifle...does anyone recognie the patchbox in the handle?

 

[R. Porter]

looks like a gunsmith rifle...or a fancy target rifle...does anyone recognie the patchbox in the handle?

Check this link that I posted above, it looks like a match to the rifle in the OP:

RARE Antique G.P. FOSTER Percussion Rifle in .38

RARE Antique G.P. FOSTER Percussion Rifle in .38 for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com