CS generals died non combat causes...

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James Archer pneumonia

Joseph Hogg Sr [disease-before he even had time to put on a uniform[!]

John Breckenridge Grayson [Disease] pneumonia and tuberculosis.

Stonewall Jackson [disease complication after being accidently wounded by friendly fire]

Micah Jenkins accidenly killed by friendly fire

David Jones heart trouble

david E Twiggs pneumonia

Lucius Walker {Duel with John Marmaduke]

EArl VAn dorn {Killed by Dr Peters)

John Wharton [Killed by Col Baylor]
 
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I would not consider Jackson and Jenkins deaths as "non-combat" related. Both friendly fire events were a result of combat operations on the battlefield
Could be argued that Jackson didn't die from the wound at all but from the amputation of his arm. But I'd really be splitting hairs.

Jenkins I'm still reading the biography of.
 
There are some very talented general officers that have been mentioned in this thread so far - viz. Jackson, Jenkins, Bowen and Duncan.
 
but from the amputation of his arm. But I'd really be splitting hairs.
amputation as a result from being shot. And you are right about splitting hairs. As most of us know, many soldiers both sides of the ACW died of disease, sickness as a result of war time environment, conditions and exposure they were subjected as a result of war time service. The splitting hairs really comes down to causes - direct or indirect. Just my 2 cent.
I mean, the case of 'indirect' could even be made for BG Philip St George Cocke who took his own life. I've seen many accounts were his actions were described resulting from "melancholy" after 1st Manassas. His wife described this after he returned home from the battle. We've seen this described and term modified over three centuries - soldiers heart, battle fatigue, bomb scared, etc etc and now referred to as combat related PTSD. I actually believe (IMO) there was high likeliness more of these occurred during or after the ACW and not reported or accurately accounted for due to how 19th century society and culture treated suicide. It was something not openly spoken about and considered of extreme sensitivity. Cocke was a high profile person and most likely reason his was known.
 
James Archer pneumonia

Joseph Hogg Sr [disease-before he even had time to put on a uniform[!]

John Breckenridge Grayson [Disease] pneumonia and tuberculosis.

Stonewall Jackson [disease complication after being accidently wounded by friendly fire]

Micah Jenkins accidenly killed by friendly fire

David Jones heart trouble

david E Twiggs pneumonia

Lucius Walker {Duel with John Marmaduke]

EArl VAn dorn {Killed by Dr Peters)

John Wharton [Killed by Col Baylor]
It could well be argued that being hit by friendly fire IS a combat caused wound.
 
For those who aren't a doctor but want to play one on this site, here are the instructions from DHHS/CDC for completing the cause of death section on a death certificate. There is something to be said for just having to type them and not actually having to figure them out. :smile:


More about death investigation via forensic pathology for those of you who watched Quincy, ME and/or any of the CSI franchise.


I loved typing autopsies! Watching them did not happen, although I was invited. :sick:
 
amputation as a result from being shot. And you are right about splitting hairs. As most of us know, many soldiers both sides of the ACW died of disease, sickness as a result of war time environment, conditions and exposure they were subje9ncted as a result of war time service. The splitting hairs really comes down to causes - direct or indirect. Just my 2 cent.
I mean, the case of 'indirect' could even be made for BG Philip St George Cocke who took his own life. I've seen many accounts were his actions were described resulting from "melancholy" after 1st Manassas. His wife described this after he returned home from the battle. We've seen this described and term modified over three centuries - soldiers heart, battle fatigue, bomb scared, etc etc and now referred to as combat related PTSD. I actually believe (IMO) there was high likeliness more of these occurred during or after the ACW and not reported or accurately accounted for due to how 19th century society and culture treated suicide. It was something not openly spoken about and considered of extreme sensitivity. Cocke was a high profile person and most likely reason his was known.
You're right about Cooke. I don't think anyone can 'handle' combat. I think people cope. And You're right how suicide or depression is seen places a big part.

I was talking to a former navy chief, who had become a therapist. He worked with soldiers with PTSD. He would tell them what signs were and let them process it. As a beginning strategy when Startin therapy. Said it hurts when people come up to him, tell.him they have PRSD, due to the criterion, and say.tyey won't and can't talk. So even now it makes more sense to people to drink, ETC, or whatever they do to cope.

There were already inroads being made into helping those with PTSD. But this sort of thing wasn't understood. They just knew it worked. That wasn't every sawbones either.

I bring up Hood with AoT a lot when I talk about this but there were many more. Thanks for bringing Cooke up.
 
You're right about Cooke. I don't think anyone can 'handle' combat. I think people cope. And You're right how suicide or depression is seen places a big part.

I was talking to a former navy chief, who had become a therapist. He worked with soldiers with PTSD. He would tell them what signs were and let them process it. As a beginning strategy when Startin therapy. Said it hurts when people come up to him, tell.him they have PRSD, due to the criterion, and say.tyey won't and can't talk. So even now it makes more sense to people to drink, ETC, or whatever they do to cope.

There were already inroads being made into helping those with PTSD. But this sort of thing wasn't understood. They just knew it worked. That wasn't every sawbones either.

I bring up Hood with AoT a lot when I talk about this but there were many more. Thanks for bringing Cooke up.
Respectfully, should be Cocke...not to be confused with Federal general PStG *Cooke* (d. 1895), Jeb Stuart's estranged father-in-law.
 
Respectfully, should be Cocke...not to be confused with Federal general PStG *Cooke* (d. 1895), Jeb Stuart's estranged father-in-law.
What are the odds of two such similarly named officers, fighting on opposing sides? (Of course, I have at least THREE George Washington Breedloves in my family, and not all from Georgia. :)
 

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