Confederate weapon - US Model 1836 pistol

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As some may know, I recently decided to switch my collecting interest toward Confederate items. I know - dark and dangerous waters! Buyer beware, both of frauds and of going broke! Given the supply/demand relationship of things Confederate, I realize that short of winning the lottery my "collection" will only ever amount to a few items. But I am enjoying the research, the hunt, and the pursuit of a few items.

I am proud to present this Confederate-altered US model 1836 pistol.

Per Murphy and Madaus' book, Confederate Rifles and Muskets, "1,093 pistols altered at Fayetteville incorporate several common characteristics. All observed alterations were affected on US model 1836 contract pistols usually are Johnson's contracts with the dates between 1837 1840. Barrels often but not necessarily are marked with the North Carolina state ownership mark.The alteration process consist of enlarging the vent on the right side of the barrel threading it then starting a cylindrical bolster tapped for a cone and drilled through on its right side for cleaning the channel the plug for the small screw. The hammer has a distinctive configuration similar to that of the Fayetteville rifle hammer."

"Reassembly codes vary on the pistols examined but usually consist of Arabic number or a letter in conjunction with an number struck into the rear face of a hammer, on the interior of the lock plate, and in some cases the wood of lock cavity."

In Shannon Prichards book Collecting the Confederacy, he states, "The single shot percussion pistol seems much too antiquated for service in 1861. In reality, it was one of the better arms available to the Confederate Calvary early in the war. While there were plenty of volunteers to fill the Calvary ranks the government was unable to arm them."

This pistol is reported to have been modified by MA Baker in Fayetteville North Carolina. Baker, a Fayetteville gunsmith, was known to have altered a number of arms for the State of North Carolina and the Confederate Ordnance Department in 1861 and 1862. His work is distinguished by the distinctive hammer style and method of bolster alteration from flintlock to percussion. Also distinctive is the secondary number stampings on the inside of the hammer, in the wood opposite the lock, and on the underside of the barrel.

Based in my own research, I'm dubious as to whether this pistol is a MA Baker modification as the bolster is different (or perhaps modified later?). However, it does have the Arabic number 12 on inside of the hammer, on the left side of the stock, on the bottom of the barrel, and on the inside of the lock. And of course the distinctive Fayetteville hammer.

Whether Baker or some other gunsmith made this conversation, I was confident that it is a Confederate converted pistol. However, to be sure, I asked Shannon Pritchard (Collecting the Confederacy author and well known expert on Confederate items) to examine the pistol. Per Mr. Pritchard, "There is no doubt that this is a Fayetteville Conversion, whether Baker did at Fayetteville or not is irrelevant. It is correct and at a very good price." And with that confirmation I purchased it. (I did not notice it until after purchase but the original inspector initials on the barrel "JCS" are also my own initials! How cool!)

While not as "sexy" as the Kerr, LeMatt, or pistols made by the Confederacy, this pistol played an important role as a stopgap in the first year of the war to arm Confederate forces until imports and Southern manufacturing could catch up. I'm proud to add it to my minuscule Confederate collection.

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Another great acquisition Sir. Many scoff at conversions but I always say these specific conversion arms can be proven as actual Confederate used arms (and even traced back to specific arsenals) rather than guessing at it with various Enfields and other arms.
 
definitely an interesting piece! That is a Fayetteville "S" shape hammer, and there are plenty of examples of southern gunsmiths using the French style bolster, or drum bolster, to convert arms, so its most likely a Fayetteville Arsenal conversion but most likely not a baker conversion. Are there any other letters on the pistol besides the T on the plate?
 
Does anyone know what the T stamped on the lock plate means?
I owned one of these some years ago, in much worse shape that yours, and here are photos of the lockplate and hammer of the one I had:

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I think the T on the Waters pistols may be subinspector marks. My conversion dated 1839 has T. My original dated 1837 looks like an E or F.

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definitely an interesting piece! That is a Fayetteville "S" shape hammer, and there are plenty of examples of southern gunsmiths using the French style bolster, or drum bolster, to convert arms, so its most likely a Fayetteville Arsenal conversion but most likely not a baker conversion. Are there any other letters on the pistol besides the T on the plate?
Only the JCS inspector initials the P proof stamped on the barrel. However there are secondary numbers (12) stamped inside the hammer, under the barrel and in the wood opposite the lock.
 
In addition to the conversion with the Fayetteville style hammer, I also once owned a conversion of a Model 1836 pistol with the barrel marked "N. CAROLINA" and I attach some of those to this message.View attachment 512733View attachment 512734View attachment 512735View attachment 512736View attachment 512737
In addition to the conversion with the Fayetteville style hammer, I also once owned a conversion of a Model 1836 pistol with the barrel marked "N. CAROLINA" and I attach some of those to this message.View attachment 512733View attachment 512734View attachment 512735View attachment 512736View attachment 512737
Very nice!!! I own several arms with NC surcharges on them! I study and collect CS arms with a focus on NC items and specializing in Baker conversions!
Any certain locations?
 

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