Confederate buckle

[Package4]

From Relicman's Website:

Editor note: This die is not really a copy, it is a fresh die made up by a sutler to use for re-enactment supplies. This pattern is sold in quantities by many of the sutlers at living history events and was made by the thousands. A few fakers have tried to age these buckles, this one is aged better than most but is still a pretty lame fake.

 

[Duane Pringle]

Yes it is.

 

[UCVRelics]

I'm still not convinced of this plate. I knew Steve quite well as we hunted together in North Georgia many times. Ive only met Mr. Kerksis once and I have the utmost respect for both of them but the lack of any dug plates of this pattern leans me that way. Even the rarest of all CS plate the one with 11 stars has been excavated quite a few times. You would think that if they were made in any quantity there would have been a few more dug examples especially in VA where there are more relic hunters than there are trees. Just sayin.

Belt plates, like coins can go deep

On the depths of plates, a lot depends on the soil conditions. The first CSA rectangle I found was in the CS winter camps at Tullahoma was only about 6 inches deep due to the rocky soil conditions. The second was a CS 2 piece I found in Tupelo MS and was in very sandy soil and was almost a foot and it weighs about half as much as a rectangle.

 

[mofederal]

Even though the plate as shown originally has been determined to be a fake, it is still a great educational story. Thanks all for the great information and Duane for bringing up the find. I learned a lot, and enjoyed reading it all. Thanks @Duane Pringle for this thread.

 

[Michael W.]

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Exact same die strike

Its got a green patina it must be real!! Or is that bleach....

 

[Package4]

Its got a green patina it must be real!! Or is that bleach....

Guess I'll post on Ebay where all fakes go for sale..........not!

 

[Package4]

I'm still not convinced of this plate. I knew Steve quite well as we hunted together in North Georgia many times. Ive only met Mr. Kerksis once and I have the utmost respect for both of them but the lack of any dug plates of this pattern leans me that way. Even the rarest of all CS plate the one with 11 stars has been excavated quite a few times. You would think that if they were made in any quantity there would have been a few more dug examples especially in VA where there are more relic hunters than there are trees. Just sayin.



On the depths of plates, a lot depends on the soil conditions. The first CSA rectangle I found was in the CS winter camps at Tullahoma was only about 6 inches deep due to the rocky soil conditions. The second was a CS 2 piece I found in Tupelo MS and was in very sandy soil and was almost a foot and it weighs about half as much as a rectangle.

There is a dug example that was in Norm Flayderman's collection, I believe it was dug in the 50s; I saw two dug examples at the Richmond show a couple of years ago, in the largest ever display of Confederate belt buckles at one time, so they said. There were three digger/collectors who have since started selling their buckles through Shiloh Relics, they had just about every buckle known, even an Arkansas.

I know what you're saying, as Lanyard Puller would say "if there's only one, you don't want to own it".

 

[Duane Pringle]

I really like the relic man site. I Think my friend thought it was to good to be true also I think that is why he had me post it.

 

[UCVRelics]

I really like the relic man site

Harry does have a GREAT site but he's been at it for years and I heard a rumor at the Franklin Show he was retiring. Can't wait till that collection goes on the block.

 

[Package4]

I really like the relic man site. I Think my friend thought it was to good to be true also I think that is why he had me post it.

It also looks to have been painted white at some juncture........