Col. Ireland.

[civilken]

we all know about Col. Chamberlain.. but why hasn't Col. Ireland received the same press as people who follow history should we not also talk about a man that did a incredible job on Culps Hill. He held against a much larger force and had his men do two bayonet charges .

 

[JOHN42768]

I'm guessing Chamberlain had a much better PR man. Somebody up the food chain who stoked the fire.

 

[Pat Young]

Col. Ireland was an immigrant, which may have had something to do with it.

As his name implies, he was from Scotland.

 

[Andy Cardinal]

Col. Ireland was an immigrant, which may have had something to do with it.

As his name implies, he was from Scotland.

Ireland also did not survive the war.

 

[ErnieMac]

My answer can be expressed in two words, Michael Shaara. Save for the novel and movie Gettysburg, how many people outside of Civil War history scholars and enthusiasts would know who Chamberlain was and what he did. At the time of his death of disease in the Atlanta Campaign, Colonel Ireland was serving as a brigade commander. He was well thought of and it seems likely that promotion would have followed.

 

[Tom Elmore]

Col. Ireland was an immigrant, which may have had something to do with it.

As his name implies, he was from Scotland.

Col. David Ireland was born 9 May 1832 in Forfar, Scotland.

Two other Union colonels of respected regiments at Gettysburg were also born in Scotland:

Clinton Dugald MacDougall of the 111th New York, born 14 September 1839 at Kintyre.

John Halliday Patrick of the 5th Ohio, born 11 March 1820 at Edinburgh.

 

[Burning Billy]

Chamberlain and Michael Shaara.

George Sears Greene is forgotten as well, with the exception of people with an interest in the battle of the Gettysburg. Culp's Hill today is the least visited section of the battlefield, despite it seeing more sustained fighting than Little Round Top and arguably being much more important strategically.

A large part of that was that Chamberlain was a very good writer, which in turn probably played a role in why Michael Shaara made him one of the characters in his novel, rather than David Ireland. Chamberlain's skill with a pen ensured he, the 20th Maine, and Little Round Top would be better remembered than Culp's Hill and it's cast of characters. Greene was an engineer that didn't have Chamberlain's skill with a pen, and Ireland didn't survive the war.

 

[Jimklag]

I'm guessing Chamberlain had a much better PR man. Somebody up the food chain who stoked the fire.

Michael Shaara was Joshua Chamberain's publicity agent. Nobody ever wrote a book about Colonel Ireland.

 

[infomanpa]

My answer can be expressed in two words, Michael Shaara. Save for the novel and movie Gettysburg, how many people outside of Civil War history scholars and enthusiasts would know who Chamberlain was and what he did.

That's exactly correct. Without the book, Killer Angels and subsequent movie, Chamberlain would hardly be known to the general public.

 

[civilken]

I'm guessing Chamberlain had a much better PR man. Somebody up the food chain who stoked the fire.

that's what Gary Gallagher has said better PR.

 

[civilken]

Chamberlain and Michael Shaara.

George Sears Greene is forgotten as well, with the exception of people with an interest in the battle of the Gettysburg. Culp's Hill today is the least visited section of the battlefield, despite it seeing more sustained fighting than Little Round Top and arguably being much more important strategically.

A large part of that was that Chamberlain was a very good writer, which in turn probably played a role in why Michael Shaara made him one of the characters in his novel, rather than David Ireland. Chamberlain's skill with a pen ensured he, the 20th Maine, and Little Round Top would be better remembered than Culp's Hill and it's cast of characters. Greene was an engineer that didn't have Chamberlain's skill with a pen, and Ireland didn't survive the war.

I also believe having had most of his men pulled to cover sickles blunder it would look good that he had its so hard because of another generals blunder.. And general mead was doing his best to fill the gaps with his men.