Make sure you know what size box you have, .58 or .69. All the big sutlers usually have them. That looks like nice quality work on the site @Rusk County Avengers posted, wasn't familiar with them before. Right here @iron bender may have some. He makes a good looking canteens, don't know if he makes box tins, hopefully he'll see this before long.
I have several cartridge boxes that were collected after the Battle of Gettysburg. All the tins were removed, and some had their flaps taken off to facilitate faster cartridge access.
C&C out of Idaho will have them. Don't know where you are but crossing those Rocky Mountains is expensive shipping. West of the Rocky Mountains there are a few others besides C&C.
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I kinda have the same opinion, but to be fair, I've seen more than a few original Confederate cartridge boxes missing them. One the outer flap cut off. And I've known of a pile of the tins dug up in a camp once locally, alongside two stacks of "shoulder scales" that were unwanted.
I kinda lean on it being a now-dead reenactorism, that I myself was guilty of once upon a time, but them being disposed of is theoretically possible. Lord knows getting cartridges out is easier. Also them destroyed in the box which is a safety no-no.
Thanks for posting the DTW info. Many a little items I can probably use in the future. The embalming bucket is a step beyond. Would have been great for placing Halloween Treats into for the little boys and gouls.
Thanks for posting the DTW info. Many a little items I can probably use in the future. The embalming bucket is a step beyond. Would have been great for placing Halloween Treats into for the little boys and gouls.
I have several cartridge boxes that were collected after the Battle of Gettysburg. All the tins were removed, and some had their flaps taken off to facilitate faster cartridge access
I have several cartridge boxes that were collected after the Battle of Gettysburg. All the tins were removed, and some had their flaps taken off to facilitate faster cartridge access.
I would have to see documentation that's how they were collected. Contrary to popular belief the CS Army, particularly the ANV, was not an undisciplined mob. Without the tins the box loses some strength & structural integrity, cartridges come apart, you end up with a pile of powder and paper in the bottom of the box. Without the flaps the box loses it waterproof ability. Some maybe even many but most... I would question that even among the CS.
I would have to see documentation that's how they were collected. Contrary to popular belief the CS Army, particularly the ANV, was not an undisciplined mob. Without the tins the box loses some strength & structural integrity, cartridges come apart, you end up with a pile of powder and paper in the bottom of the box. Without the flaps the box loses it waterproof ability. Some maybe even many but most... I would question that even among the CS.
The chain of custody from the Ziegler family to me includes all necessary documentation. Your understanding of the subject is incorrect regarding Gettysburg and these cartridge boxes.
Considering the supply issues of the Confederacy, I could see tins being lost or damaged and not replaced or at least not very quickly. But everything I've heard or read points to tins being required.
Considering the supply issues of the Confederacy, I could see tins being lost or damaged and not replaced or at least not very quickly. But everything I've heard or read points to tins being required.
As a caution, not all tins will fit in all boxes. I had a handmade box made in the 70s by Mike Yeck. It came without tins. It took me a while to find tins that would fit. Some were too fat, too short, or too wide. I took the box with me to S&S Sutler in Gettysburg where, after a couple of tries, I found a pair the fit perfectly.
The chain of custody from the Ziegler family to me includes all necessary documentation. Your understanding of the subject is incorrect regarding Gettysburg and these cartridge boxes.
I'm curious how this actually allows for "fast action." I've had to borrow a box with no tins before…having them all loose in there did absolutely nothing to make things faster, and in fact, like johan alluded to, I lost several rounds to breakage in the process. Further, finding a few boxes on the field doesn't even come close to supporting your statement that "most soldiers removed them."