Can you identify?

[tubs]

Can anyone tell me what era this is from, and what the #2 represents?

 

[Story]

'2' would be a Regiment number

If the second letter on the cartridge box is a 'J' (as in NJ), then that'd indicate

Second New Jersey Infantry Regiment in the American Civil War

History of the Second New Jersey Infantry Regiment in the American Civil War with timeline of important events, movements and battles.

civilwarintheeast.com

The gear is for a percussion weapon (note the cap box), so it's not for the 2nd NJ of the Revolutionary War.

If the bayonet fits one of the weapon types issued to the 2nd NJ, you've got more proof.

 

[tubs]

'2' would be a Regiment number

If the second letter on the cartridge box is a 'J' (as in NJ), then that'd indicate

Second New Jersey Infantry Regiment in the American Civil War

History of the Second New Jersey Infantry Regiment in the American Civil War with timeline of important events, movements and battles.

civilwarintheeast.com

The gear is for a percussion weapon (note the cap box), so it's not for the 2nd NJ of the Revolutionary War.

If the bayonet fits one of the weapon types issued to the 2nd NJ, you've got more proof.

To me the monogram reads "Ng", I'm assuming for National Guard? The bayonet is a US M1816.

 

[JOHN42768]

I'm thinking National Guard NG

 

[bobinwmass]

According to Michael J. O'Donnell & J. Duncan Campbell's "American Military Belt Plates", the 7th Regiment New York State Militia (who had dubbed themselves National Guard a few decades earlier and whose cartridge boxes had "NG" on them) wore such belt plates with their company number on them from 1862-1868. Don't know if the back of yours is like the back of the one pictured here. They note it wwas a fairly common pattern adopted by many units during the 1860's-1870's.

 

[Story]

To me the monogram reads "Ng", I'm assuming for National Guard? The bayonet is a US M1816.

Some form of 'thank you for an answer' would be appropriate. You lack decorum.

 

[tubs]

According to Michael J. O'Donnell & J. Duncan Campbell's "American Military Belt Plates", the 7th Regiment New York State Militia (who had dubbed themselves National Guard a few decades earlier and whose cartridge boxes had "NG" on them) wore such belt plates with their company number on them from 1862-1868. Don't know if the back of yours is like the back of the one pictured here. They note it wwas a fairly common pattern adopted by many units during the 1860's-1870's.

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New York hey, that kind of makes sense to me because both of the pouches are mark made in New York on the inside. So what this book is stating is that the 2 stands for the 2nd Company of the 7th Regiment and or any unit #2 from any other state?

 

[tubs]

Some form of 'thank you for an answer' would be appropriate. You lack decorum.

You want a thank you for a wrong answer?

 

[Rhea Cole]

You want a thank you for a wrong answer?

Here on CWT we acknowledge a member's contributions. All of us have posted "wrong" answers. That is a part of the process of posting what you think & eliciting a response. That is known as a free exchange of ideas.

The fact of the matter is that quite often "wrong" answers are the ones that inspire the most interesting threads.

I have been at this for decades. Recently I posted a "fact" from a contemporary source that is, in fact, apocryphal.

We here on CWT are always learning from each other & have a culture of graciousness. A "Thank You" is always appropriate.

 

[Story]

You want a thank you for a wrong answer?

As I noted, you have no decorum.

 

[Booner]

According to Michael J. O'Donnell & J. Duncan Campbell's "American Military Belt Plates", the 7th Regiment New York State Militia (who had dubbed themselves National Guard a few decades earlier and whose cartridge boxes had "NG" on them) wore such belt plates with their company number on them from 1862-1868. Don't know if the back of yours is like the back of the one pictured here. They note it wwas a fairly common pattern adopted by many units during the 1860's-1870's.

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In addition to what you wrote:

From Wikipedia-->https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_Army_National_Guard

Origin of the term: "National Guard"

The first use of the term "National Guard" by American militia units dates from Lafayette's 1824–1825 tour of the United States. The 2nd Battalion of the 11th New York Artillery – which later became New York's famed 7th Regiment – was one of the units that welcomed Lafayette to New York City, and it adopted the title "National Guard" in honor of Lafayette's service as commander of the Garde Nationale de Paris during the French Revolution. During a review of militia units Lafayette took note of the term, and as it grew in popularity it was adopted by many militia units in the years that followed.

And again from Wikipedia, which backs up your post, about the history of the 7th NYM regiment.
--->https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_New_York_Militia_Regiment