Can you identify this?

[Ciccio]

Hello there, i'm Italian living in italy.
i did join this forum couse i got somthing in hand that i can't handle.
My grand pa used to work in Nyc for ten years and then moved to Brasil for other ten years.
He was the general Manager of Olivetti in US.
Once back to Italy he took all him stuff that he bought in those 20 years.
2 years ago he past the way and he gave me this frame.
can one of you tell me what is it exactly?
i made some research by myself and looks like theres attached the original Farewell order Number 9.
Its not a copy.
what do u think about the pic? and what about the sword?
thank you in advice for any help.

 

[CMWinkler]

Welcome.

 

[Ciccio]

thx for the fast reply.
can u xplain me what Co.I and ANV means?

 

[CMWinkler]

Co.I means Company I of a regiment.
ANV means the Army of Northern Virginia

My namesake was the Captain of Company I of the 4th Texas, Hood's Texas Brigade, Army of Northern Virginia.

 

[Ciccio]

interesting, thak you.

 

[TerryB]

Ciao! We need larger copies of the items. The text is too small to read. As for the sword, we need to see larger, more detailed pictures.

 

[kholland]

It is Robert E Lee's final address to the Army of Northern Virginia starting with the opening phrase "After four years of arduous service...". Also known as General Order Number 9. If it is a copy of the order from Lee's staff it could be worth a good sum of money.

 

[Ciccio]

as soon as i can i will post more detailed photos

 

[Stony]

Welcome.

 

[E_just_E]

Welcome!

That sword looks potentially like a US Field Officer's Sabre, but cannot tell more than that without more detailed pictures. Need to look at the decorations, makers imprints and any other engravings to tell more.

 

[donna]

Welcome from Kentucky.

 

[TinCan]

Interesting stuff.....greetings and welcome from Kentucky.

 

[Ciccio]

thanks to all of you.
The frame right now is in a blank vault "caveau" in Swiss (where i live), i can't open it till May.
As soon i can get access to the caveau i'll post more pics.
Thx in advice for ur help.

 

[Ciccio]

i made a family tree research of Wesley Duke Lee.
what i found is that Mother from Portugal Odile de Oliveira Lee, father William Lee Bowman Jr.
i found a document that looks like Wesley Duke lee came to NYc with a ship, the transilvanya on 2 Februar 1964.
Mother name's and father name miss on that document. can some of you explain me that situation?
i mean...if a 3 year old come with a ship to Nyc how comes the autorithy did not register the family or the persone who who was carring that baby?
https://familysearch.org/search/rec...y duke"~ +surname:lee~ +birth_year:1931-1931~

 

[Ciccio]

Welcome!

That sword looks potentially like a US Field Officer's Sabre, but cannot tell more than that without more detailed pictures. Need to look at the decorations, makers imprints and any other engravings to tell more.

it's quite impossible to notice any engraving or markers due to the fact that the sabre is completely covered with ossidation.

 

[MRB1863]

Welcome from Pennsylvania! Interesting items you study. Can you post photos with more detail?

 

[AndyHall]

Concur with @kholland. It is a copy of Lee's General Order No. 9, issued at Appomattox on April 10, 1865.

If it is an original copy for dissemination, it's quite valuable.

 

[Ciccio]

Welcome from Pennsylvania! Interesting items you study. Can you post photos with more detail?

Can't right now, it's in a caveau at UBS bank in zurich. I have to wait till May to open it and bring home the frame.

 

[CWguy]

Nice historical stuff. Better pics would be great. When you get your hands on the stuff we would like to examine them better. Nice document and pretty descent saber but not perfect. Love historical stuff

 

[Ciccio]

was Lee a confederate?
couse while surfing internet i have learned that's a Conf. saber.
am i wrong?