Black powder

[Rebforever]

There is a black powder designed for cannons. I forget the size.

 

[Rebforever]

Go x makes a special powder for cannons.

 

[captaindrew]

Are paper cartridges minus the ball used in reenacting?

Yes

 

[Pollaco]

There is a black powder designed for cannons. I forget the size.

1f isn't it?

 

[captaindrew]

1f isn't it?

Yes, 1F is typically used for artillery

 

[Pollaco]

Again with the reenacting regulations question, are synthetics like Pyrodex or Triple 7 allowed?

 

[2ndDEboy]

Yes, 1F is typically used for artillery

1fg close as it gets for historical musket powder during the war

 

[rebelatsea]

That may work for rifles, but it won't work for artillery. I remember when they used to give us elephant brand powder as a powder bounty for artillery - we would refuse to take it. it did not burn well in cannons, it would burn too slow. sounded like an elephant fart instead of a cannon going off. We have found that the Schuetzen 1FG works good for artillery.

I shouldn't ask but I'm going to: how do you know what an elephant fart sounds like?

 

[drezac]

I shouldn't ask but I'm going to: how do you know what an elephant fart sounds like?

That's just the term we always used since the brand name was elephant powder. At Hale Farm this year we heard the NY Battery cannon sounding rather anemic - asked them what was going on. They got in on the powder "deal" that was offered at the Daniel Lady Farm a while ago. It was some kind of surplus powder and it did not work well in cannons. just a muted woompf, no boom. unfortunately for them, they bought quite a bit.

 

[Dan Kohli]

Again with the reenacting regulations question, are synthetics like Pyrodex or Triple 7 allowed?

I do believe most events don't allow black powder substitutes. One of my group's members says it comes out as flaming goop or something along those lines.

 

[Pollaco]

I do believe most events don't allow black powder substitutes. One of my group's members says it comes out as flaming goop or something along those lines.

Thanks for the input, Iike I said I don't reenact. Alot of people have the mindset that Pyrodex is bad, even those who never tried it. But to each his own.I have never had any problems with it.

 

[Dan Kohli]

Thanks for the input, Iike I said I don't reenact. Alot of people have the mindset that Pyrodex is bad, even those who never tried it. But to each his own.I have never had any problems with it.

The impression I got after talking with a few people, including one who does target completions IIRC, is that it's perfectly fine for use with projectiles. But it's not a good replacement for black powder in reenactments due to its burn characteristics.

 

[Pollaco]

The impression I got after talking with a few people, including one who does target completions IIRC, is that it's perfectly fine for use with projectiles. But it's not a good replacement for black powder in reenactments due to its burn characteristics.

I see what you mean. Without the ball or bullet compacting the powder you get more of a fizz than a bang. And I've heard some reenactors don't allow ramrods. They could become deadly projectiles.I would not care to be in the path of one of those "arrows".

 

[drezac]

Again with the reenacting regulations question, are synthetics like Pyrodex or Triple 7 allowed?

at all of the events we have been to, they specify only black powder. While this may be an old wife's tail, I remember in the past hearing that a burn from pyrodex can be more serious due to it's combustion byproducts.

 

[captaindrew]

Thanks for the input, Iike I said I don't reenact. Alot of people have the mindset that Pyrodex is bad, even those who never tried it. But to each his own.I have never had any problems with it.

Pyrodex isn't a bad product, it just doesn't work in reenacting, firing without a projectile from a rifle musket. I've seen many new members over the years insist on trying it. If it ignites at all is a slow wet fart, not a bang. It needs that pressure from a projectile or a closed cartridge to perform well. That's not a personal opinion, it's fact. I've seen it many times over the years.

 

[hltodd]

Have used Pyrodex to create blanks in black powder revolvers for about 20 + years with no problem Using in outdoor theater in Texas. BUT. I am able to use one of the loading stands so I can get good compression and then I compress a "food material" with the same amount of pressure before sealing off the cylinders. And I do use all the leverage that stand provides.

 

[Pollaco]

I made me up a mess of paper cartridges for my revolver. Instead of real black I substituted Pyrodex. I too believe heavy compression is one of the keys. I use a press as well mainly because the revolver has a brass frame and I don't want to exert too much pressure on the frame by way of the loading lever. Many of us use Pyrodex not only because it's a fine product but because sometimes it's the only product available in our neck of the woods.

 

[Pollaco]

I am a member of a muzzleloading forum in addition to this one. Pyrodex appears not to be a big favorite and is kind of looked down upon by alot of shooters on that forum. Pyrodex is a very corrosive product.If I was too lazy to clean properly, I'd look down on it too. If you use Pyrodex in your CVA guns you are almost like a second class citizen. Aren't you glad we don't have "snobs" here?

 

[PrivateBrooke]

I just use the cheap "Reenactor grade" powder. It works okay I guess but I'll probably get some 3F after I've shot off all my stock of that stuff.

 

[2ndDEboy]

I just use the cheap "Reenactor grade" powder. It works okay I guess but I'll probably get some 3F after I've shot off all my stock of that stuff.

Well this 1 1/2 fg I got for free lol