Beauregard's LeMat

Private Watkins

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In case anyone is interested, and if you've got an extra $200,000-300,000 you're not quite sure what to do with... LeMat serial #8, General P.G.T. Beauregard's personal revolver, will be up for auction on March 15 over at James D. Julia...

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/2198-391/

LEMAT SN 8, GENERAL P.G.T. BEAUREGARD'S PERSONAL REVOLVER AND FINEST KNOWN.
SN 8. This is the finest identified Confederate handgun extant that belonged to one of the most important Confederate personalities, that of General Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard, who was LeMat's cousin by marriage. P.G.T. Beauregard was a prominent military officer prior to war who championed these pistols to be manufactured for the U.S. Army. When the war began and he sided with his beloved Confederacy and he became the first Confederate General officer on March 1, 1861; he became full General in the Confederate Army on July 21, 1861. The only other Confederate field officers with this rank were Robert E. Lee, Albert Sidney Johnston and Joseph E. Johnston. Beauregard would order the first shots of the Civil War upon Fort Sumter, April 12, 1861. Beauregard had a stellar and historic military career, which is easily researched. Probably his best biographer was L.S.U. Professor T. Harry Williams, who wrote Napoleon in Gray, 1955. Beauregard owned 25% of the LeMat manufacturing company and gave several of the revolvers as gifts. The most famous of these was given to Stonewall Jackson in 1862 based on newspaper accounts, though its current whereabouts or SN are unknown. In The Confederate LeMat Revolver by Doug Adams, on pg. 37 referring to this pistol offered: "Serial number eight deserves special mention. It is one of the finest surviving First Models known. It was also Beauregard's original pistol, which, in his haste to return to Charleston, South Carolina, he left it at the home of Thomas Henderson in 1862. Family correspondence indicates that rather than retrieve the pistol, he simply made it a gift to his long-time friend." This extraordinary pistol is accompanied by the finest known LeMat holster. PROVENANCE: General P.G.T. Beauregard; Thomas Henderson, Savannah Volunteer Guards, 1862; Thomas Hunter Henderson; Lindsey P. Henderson Jr.; Pictured on pg. 360 of "Civil War Guns" by William Edwards, 1962; Displayed at the National NRA Centennial Show and won an NRA Silver Medal for being one of the 10 best guns at the show, 1976; John Sexton, Stone Mountain Relics, May 2, 1988; R.E. Neville, January 1993; Don & Kathlee Bryan Collection, December 1993; Pictured on pgs 110-111 "Arming the Glorious Cause" by Whisker, Hartzler & Yantz 1998; Pictured on pg. 39, "The Confederate LeMat Revolver", by Doug Adams, 2005. CONDITION: Gun is extremely fine, retaining over 95% of its original bright blue finish with slight reductions on top of bbl with scattered staining and some scattered areas of pitting. Externally, SNs can be found on bbl, loading assembly, cyl and frame. Grips are well fit showing raised grain and sharp diamond point detail. Rifled bore and cyl chambers retain much of their original blue finish. Gun is possibly un-fired as the bores are so crisp and bright. Shotgun cyl that is typically stated in the literature to be finished bright is overall mottled plum/silver with large portions of sky blue color in protected areas, showing at least on early shotgun barrels, they were blued. The accompanying holster is also extremely fine and the best LeMat holster to surface, overall supple with light craquelure, sewn edge has several chips with reinforced glove leather lining which is dry and cracking at folds. The 9 LeMat cartridges are finely made facsimiles for display. 50122-16 JS (200,000-300,000) – Lot 2198
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The weapon featured a nine-shot .42 or .36 caliber cylinder, revolutionary since most hand-held pistols of the day were six-shot weapons. But it also carried underneath a smoothbore, short-barreled, 16 gauge single blast shotgun, earning it its nickname as the "grapeshot revolver."

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The flipping of a lever on the hammer of the gun allowed the shooter to fire black powder-propelled balls from the upper tube. Flipping the lever down caused the mini shotgun barrel to discharge.

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"These guns were manufactured in the years 1856 through 1865," Andrews noted. "With the added shotgun barrel you had a total of ten shots."

Andrews explained that the LeMat was a favorite of high-ranking Confederate officers. "It was perfect for the kind of up-close fighting that you saw at Gettysburg," he said. "It's a black powder percussion weapon. You have a paper cartridge with powder and you load the powder into the chamber with a ball. For the shotgun, you place powder and buckshot with wadding into the barrel and tamp it down."

http://www.guns.com/2011/02/15/cavalry-general-jeb-stuarts-and-his-wild-lemat-revolver/
 
Odds are whoever buys it will be a private collector, and it will never see the light of day again. It will be in a security safe, and just taken out to show off to others. It will be lost to the casual viewer and those interested in it.
 
Poor Private - If you only knew how much history is locked away in museum warehouses! None of this "stuff" is available to the public either, nor will it ever be seen by the likes of us collectors and enthusiasts. I have some experience with museums and you would be appalled at what they really think of the bulk of items that they have been entrusted with. Quite often they see their warehouses and repositories as "burdens". Believe me when I tell you they have thousands of tons of artifacts which have been gathering dust for generations. If anyone had seen the old Gettysburg Museum which housed the Rosensteel Collection, and what is now on display in the "New" museum, it is enough to make you sick! The majority of what had been on display since 1912 is now boxed up and has been put in permanent storage. Today all you will see is a smattering of what used to be on display. Even the Rosensteel family has strongly expressed its displeasure over this. The first thing the Government did was to tear down the "old museum" so they couldn't be forced to reopen it. Why? Because they knew full well the public wasn't going to like the direction in which they were headed! I have yet to find one person, who was familiar with the old museum, to have any kind words for the new museum.

Today, I know of three museums which are currently, and very quietly, "deaccessioning" thousands upon thousands of items which were donated to them over the course of the past 150 years, in the good faith that they would be preserved by those museums. These museums have been doing this for the past three years and are using several private auction houses to disburse the material. And there it is....once again back into the hands dealers of collectors, who quite frankly are more apt to display the items.
J.
 
A couple years ago, my wife and I were guests at the meeting of the American Society of Arms Collectors in Sturbridge, Mass. and one of the tours was of Springfield Armory -- a place I had wanted to visit for decades. They split us up into groups and each group got a special view of over 20 rare Confederate long arms in a downstairs room which were shown one at a time by one of the NPS personnel who had on white gloves and walked around the tables holding each firearm so we could look at it for a few seconds. NONE of these highly desirable arms was on public display in the museum itself.

I was horrified as nearly everyone of those rare Confederate long arms had been buffed bright and the stocks sanded. My guess is that some former NPS person in charge of Springfield Armory had these arms "restored" to look "new" and which had destroyed them as historical items. As I recall, only one arm was in relic condition and not buffed with a wire buffing wheel. This is what we get when a govt. agency appoints someone to a major post that has no real knowledge or interest in what they have displayed and they just view their job as one more step on the bureaucratic ladder upwards to someplace else.

As a collector it was a terrible disappointment and just an appalling display of a lack of knowledge and respect by someone in the NPS for incredibly rare antique arms. The vast bulk of what they have is locked away and nearly inaccessible to even highly qualified researchers today.
 
A couple years ago, my wife and I were guests at the meeting of the American Society of Arms Collectors in Sturbridge, Mass. and one of the tours was of Springfield Armory -- a place I had wanted to visit for decades. They split us up into groups and each group got a special view of over 20 rare Confederate long arms in a downstairs room which were shown one at a time by one of the NPS personnel who had on white gloves and walked around the tables holding each firearm so we could look at it for a few seconds. NONE of these highly desirable arms was on public display in the museum itself.

I was horrified as nearly everyone of those rare Confederate long arms had been buffed bright and the stocks sanded. My guess is that some former NPS person in charge of Springfield Armory had these arms "restored" to look "new" and which had destroyed them as historical items. As I recall, only one arm was in relic condition and not buffed with a wire buffing wheel. This is what we get when a govt. agency appoints someone to a major post that has no real knowledge or interest in what they have displayed and they just view their job as one more step on the bureaucratic ladder upwards to someplace else.

As a collector it was a terrible disappointment and just an appalling display of a lack of knowledge and respect by someone in the NPS for incredibly rare antique arms. The vast bulk of what they have is locked away and nearly inaccessible to even highly qualified researchers today.
A d--n shame
 
A couple years ago, my wife and I were guests at the meeting of the American Society of Arms Collectors in Sturbridge, Mass. and one of the tours was of Springfield Armory -- a place I had wanted to visit for decades. They split us up into groups and each group got a special view of over 20 rare Confederate long arms in a downstairs room which were shown one at a time by one of the NPS personnel who had on white gloves and walked around the tables holding each firearm so we could look at it for a few seconds. NONE of these highly desirable arms was on public display in the museum itself.

I was horrified as nearly everyone of those rare Confederate long arms had been buffed bright and the stocks sanded. My guess is that some former NPS person in charge of Springfield Armory had these arms "restored" to look "new" and which had destroyed them as historical items. As I recall, only one arm was in relic condition and not buffed with a wire buffing wheel. This is what we get when a govt. agency appoints someone to a major post that has no real knowledge or interest in what they have displayed and they just view their job as one more step on the bureaucratic ladder upwards to someplace else.

As a collector it was a terrible disappointment and just an appalling display of a lack of knowledge and respect by someone in the NPS for incredibly rare antique arms. The vast bulk of what they have is locked away and nearly inaccessible to even highly qualified researchers today.
All the NPS people I've met hace been really great people, but some were young interns with very little experience. It is scary to imagine the access they get to items that are very sensitive to environmental conditions such as light, humidity, oxygen, etc. I hope they have proper oversight, but being as they are part of a gov't agency, I doubt they do...
 
I like to see pix of guys carrying unusual revolvers, like LeMats. Here are a couple of the very few that I have come across. Very COOL stuff!!View attachment 93529 View attachment 93528
This is quite the interesting image, I haven't seen it before... what to make of it? A post-war (?) civilian carrying what looks to be a second model (?) percussion LeMat...? Does anyone have any info or background on this photo... who, when, etc.?
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Private Watkins- Sorry I can't add any additional info. on this guy with his LeMat. It sure is interesting to uncover rare pix like this one. Has anyone else seen other photos (of CW or later) of this hard to find firearm?
 
In case anyone is interested, and if you've got an extra $200,000-300,000 you're not quite sure what to do with... LeMat serial #8, General P.G.T. Beauregard's personal revolver, will be up for auction on March 15 over at James D. Julia...

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/2198-391/

LEMAT SN 8, GENERAL P.G.T. BEAUREGARD'S PERSONAL REVOLVER AND FINEST KNOWN.
SN 8. This is the finest identified Confederate handgun extant that belonged to one of the most important Confederate personalities, that of General Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard, who was LeMat's cousin by marriage. P.G.T. Beauregard was a prominent military officer prior to war who championed these pistols to be manufactured for the U.S. Army. When the war began and he sided with his beloved Confederacy and he became the first Confederate General officer on March 1, 1861; he became full General in the Confederate Army on July 21, 1861. The only other Confederate field officers with this rank were Robert E. Lee, Albert Sidney Johnston and Joseph E. Johnston. Beauregard would order the first shots of the Civil War upon Fort Sumter, April 12, 1861. Beauregard had a stellar and historic military career, which is easily researched. Probably his best biographer was L.S.U. Professor T. Harry Williams, who wrote Napoleon in Gray, 1955. Beauregard owned 25% of the LeMat manufacturing company and gave several of the revolvers as gifts. The most famous of these was given to Stonewall Jackson in 1862 based on newspaper accounts, though its current whereabouts or SN are unknown. In The Confederate LeMat Revolver by Doug Adams, on pg. 37 referring to this pistol offered: "Serial number eight deserves special mention. It is one of the finest surviving First Models known. It was also Beauregard's original pistol, which, in his haste to return to Charleston, South Carolina, he left it at the home of Thomas Henderson in 1862. Family correspondence indicates that rather than retrieve the pistol, he simply made it a gift to his long-time friend." This extraordinary pistol is accompanied by the finest known LeMat holster. PROVENANCE: General P.G.T. Beauregard; Thomas Henderson, Savannah Volunteer Guards, 1862; Thomas Hunter Henderson; Lindsey P. Henderson Jr.; Pictured on pg. 360 of "Civil War Guns" by William Edwards, 1962; Displayed at the National NRA Centennial Show and won an NRA Silver Medal for being one of the 10 best guns at the show, 1976; John Sexton, Stone Mountain Relics, May 2, 1988; R.E. Neville, January 1993; Don & Kathlee Bryan Collection, December 1993; Pictured on pgs 110-111 "Arming the Glorious Cause" by Whisker, Hartzler & Yantz 1998; Pictured on pg. 39, "The Confederate LeMat Revolver", by Doug Adams, 2005. CONDITION: Gun is extremely fine, retaining over 95% of its original bright blue finish with slight reductions on top of bbl with scattered staining and some scattered areas of pitting. Externally, SNs can be found on bbl, loading assembly, cyl and frame. Grips are well fit showing raised grain and sharp diamond point detail. Rifled bore and cyl chambers retain much of their original blue finish. Gun is possibly un-fired as the bores are so crisp and bright. Shotgun cyl that is typically stated in the literature to be finished bright is overall mottled plum/silver with large portions of sky blue color in protected areas, showing at least on early shotgun barrels, they were blued. The accompanying holster is also extremely fine and the best LeMat holster to surface, overall supple with light craquelure, sewn edge has several chips with reinforced glove leather lining which is dry and cracking at folds. The 9 LeMat cartridges are finely made facsimiles for display. 50122-16 JS (200,000-300,000) – Lot 2198
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Museums are hit and miss. When some close shop, items go out the back door to someone's private collecton or to be sold again- or even worse, items simply get tossed in the dumpster to fit a historical agenda.

The Gburg museum is a joke. When I went in 1st grade, I can only remember the display of the doors that had the cannonball go through. When I went back for the 145th, the single thing that had a lasting impact was gone. Instead I got to see a mediocre film, and the same items I can see at every other battlefield. From what I'm told, a display has to have 50 items to connect to it, so the cool pieces of 1s and 2s are gone.

Obviously, some museums are doing a great job, but be warned, after 1 year of a donation, the object is regarded as their property, to be done with as they see fit to pay staff, upkeep, or move the display of items into a new direction.

Not to take away with this thread, but the guy's collection of roughly 15 CS pistols is perhaps the best known CS pistol collection, all in the best known condition. There are collections out there that rival even this one, but the owners do their best to keep quiet about it.
 
In case anyone is interested, and if you've got an extra $200,000-300,000 you're not quite sure what to do with... LeMat serial #8, General P.G.T. Beauregard's personal revolver, will be up for auction on March 15 over at James D. Julia...

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/2198-391/

LEMAT SN 8, GENERAL P.G.T. BEAUREGARD'S PERSONAL REVOLVER AND FINEST KNOWN.
SN 8. This is the finest identified Confederate handgun extant that belonged to one of the most important Confederate personalities, that of General Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard, who was LeMat's cousin by marriage. P.G.T. Beauregard was a prominent military officer prior to war who championed these pistols to be manufactured for the U.S. Army. When the war began and he sided with his beloved Confederacy and he became the first Confederate General officer on March 1, 1861; he became full General in the Confederate Army on July 21, 1861. The only other Confederate field officers with this rank were Robert E. Lee, Albert Sidney Johnston and Joseph E. Johnston. Beauregard would order the first shots of the Civil War upon Fort Sumter, April 12, 1861. Beauregard had a stellar and historic military career, which is easily researched. Probably his best biographer was L.S.U. Professor T. Harry Williams, who wrote Napoleon in Gray, 1955. Beauregard owned 25% of the LeMat manufacturing company and gave several of the revolvers as gifts. The most famous of these was given to Stonewall Jackson in 1862 based on newspaper accounts, though its current whereabouts or SN are unknown. In The Confederate LeMat Revolver by Doug Adams, on pg. 37 referring to this pistol offered: "Serial number eight deserves special mention. It is one of the finest surviving First Models known. It was also Beauregard's original pistol, which, in his haste to return to Charleston, South Carolina, he left it at the home of Thomas Henderson in 1862. Family correspondence indicates that rather than retrieve the pistol, he simply made it a gift to his long-time friend." This extraordinary pistol is accompanied by the finest known LeMat holster. PROVENANCE: General P.G.T. Beauregard; Thomas Henderson, Savannah Volunteer Guards, 1862; Thomas Hunter Henderson; Lindsey P. Henderson Jr.; Pictured on pg. 360 of "Civil War Guns" by William Edwards, 1962; Displayed at the National NRA Centennial Show and won an NRA Silver Medal for being one of the 10 best guns at the show, 1976; John Sexton, Stone Mountain Relics, May 2, 1988; R.E. Neville, January 1993; Don & Kathlee Bryan Collection, December 1993; Pictured on pgs 110-111 "Arming the Glorious Cause" by Whisker, Hartzler & Yantz 1998; Pictured on pg. 39, "The Confederate LeMat Revolver", by Doug Adams, 2005. CONDITION: Gun is extremely fine, retaining over 95% of its original bright blue finish with slight reductions on top of bbl with scattered staining and some scattered areas of pitting. Externally, SNs can be found on bbl, loading assembly, cyl and frame. Grips are well fit showing raised grain and sharp diamond point detail. Rifled bore and cyl chambers retain much of their original blue finish. Gun is possibly un-fired as the bores are so crisp and bright. Shotgun cyl that is typically stated in the literature to be finished bright is overall mottled plum/silver with large portions of sky blue color in protected areas, showing at least on early shotgun barrels, they were blued. The accompanying holster is also extremely fine and the best LeMat holster to surface, overall supple with light craquelure, sewn edge has several chips with reinforced glove leather lining which is dry and cracking at folds. The 9 LeMat cartridges are finely made facsimiles for display. 50122-16 JS (200,000-300,000) – Lot 2198
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I can imagine. I tried to find one the last time I was in Gettysburg. I was unsuccessful. They are very rare and one with such a prestigious history would bring a very high buck. BTW; I just wanted to examine one. No way I could afford one.
 

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