Basic help with a name

[Jack7171]

I'm doing a bit of basic research for the museum in Bethlehem PA, about a certain family and their involvement in the ACW
The family is SCHROPP,,,and they had 3 sons,

Charles William Schropp 1830-1888
John C Schropp 1836-1912
Abraham S Schropp 1841-1925

I have found enlistments for John and Abraham's service,,but nothing for Charles Schropp comes up in my searches.
Old family info said all 3 sons served, and all 3 were GAR members, and all 3 have veteran markers on their graves. I found the graves, and they indeed have veteran markers and wreaths ,,,
Can anyone do a quick search and see if Charles William Schropp from Bethlehem PA shows up in any records? I've searches soldiers and sailors database, and the interweb in general, but come up with nothing on Charles, so he actually may NOT have served,, Thank you! Jack

 

[Story]

You've got to be signed in to see the details, but a leg-up for whoever has an account that'll help.

 

[Stryker65]

I found a William Schropp in the 21st Pennsylvania Cavalry, but that's the closest I've come. The company was raised five counties away from Bethlehem.

 

[Story]

Possible hit. Have fun trawling http://www.pacivilwar.com/regiment/116th.html

 

[Story]

The company was raised five counties away from Bethlehem.

Depending on when and how he enlisted, he could have easily been assigned to a company not from the Bethlehem area.

 

[Stryker65]

Possible hit. Have fun trawling http://www.pacivilwar.com/regiment/116th.html

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Haven't found anything in that roster. They must have really mangled that name, so I might go back and check again.

Depending on when and how he enlisted, he could have easily been assigned to a company not from the Bethlehem area.

True. The 21st Pennsylvania Cavalry was formed from independent cavalry companies.

 

[MWood1841]

A handful showing for these names in CMSR's. I did see a Charles Schropp with the 25th Ohio, however Bethlehem area no where close to Ohio-PA border so most likely not one of these brothers. I did see some other Schropp family from PA, so maybe kin folks (cousins, brothers, uncles, etc).
I see John C and Abraham with 1st PA Infantry Company A, although did find an index card for John C Schropp showing 1st PA but also services rendered to NY 22nd (??). So obviously not sure if this John C Schropp is the same.

Charles William Schropp I see two different set of records. One serving 21st PA Cavalry and mentioned in earlier responding posts and also did find one for 32nd PA Militia. The records showing for Schropp in the 21st PA Cav list Pottsville as origin mustering from. About an hour west from Bethlehem so maybe your guy.

Good Luck on your search and fine tuning. Hope some of this helps.

 

[Jack7171]

A handful showing for these names in CMSR's. I did see a Charles Schropp with the 25th Ohio, however Bethlehem area no where close to Ohio-PA border so most likely not one of these brothers. I did see some other Schropp family from PA, so maybe kin folks (cousins, brothers, uncles, etc).
I see John C and Abraham with 1st PA Infantry Company A, although did find an index card for John C Schropp showing 1st PA but also services rendered to NY 22nd (??). So obviously not sure if this John C Schropp is the same.

Charles William Schropp I see two different set of records. One serving 21st PA Cavalry and mentioned in earlier responding posts and also did find one for 32nd PA Militia. The records showing for Schropp in the 21st PA Cav list Pottsville as origin mustering from. About an hour west from Bethlehem so maybe your guy.

Good Luck on your search and fine tuning. Hope some of this helps.

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Excellent! Thank you! This might be our guy because we have seen quite a few pottstown and bethlehem men in the same units

 

[lupaglupa]

The Pension card for William Schropp, Company H 21st PA Cavalry, shows that his designated beneficiary was an Ephraim M. Woomer. That pension was filed for in 1891.

 

[Story]

The Pension card for William Schropp, Company H 21st PA Cavalry, shows that his designated beneficiary was an Ephraim M. Woomer. That pension was filed for in 1891.

Ephraim Milton Woomer (1844-1897) - Find a Grave...

US Congressman. He was educated in Lebanon and enlisted for the Civil War as a member of Company A, 93rd Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment. Woomer attained the rank of Sergeant and lost a leg after he was wounded at the Battle of the Wilderness. After mustering out he taught school for several...

www.findagrave.com

now all the needs to be done is to figure the connection

Charles William Schropp (1830-1888) - Find a Grave...

Find a Grave memorial for Charles William Schropp born 15 May 1830 and died 3 Apr 1888. Buried at Nisky Hill Cemetery, Bethlehem, Northampton County, Pennsylvania, United States of America, North America

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[Jack7171]

Ephraim Milton Woomer (1844-1897) - Find a Grave...

US Congressman. He was educated in Lebanon and enlisted for the Civil War as a member of Company A, 93rd Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment. Woomer attained the rank of Sergeant and lost a leg after he was wounded at the Battle of the Wilderness. After mustering out he taught school for several...

www.findagrave.com

now all the needs to be done is to figure the connection

Charles William Schropp (1830-1888) - Find a Grave...

Find a Grave memorial for Charles William Schropp born 15 May 1830 and died 3 Apr 1888. Buried at Nisky Hill Cemetery, Bethlehem, Northampton County, Pennsylvania, United States of America, North America

www.findagrave.com

How common was Brights disease? I ask because this Ephraim died of Brights disease,,,and in my reading about the Schropp family, one of the Schropp family members died of Brights disease. I remember that because of the name of the disease, I just don't know which family member died of it. That could be a connection,,,thanks for the legwork thus far!

 

[Fairfield]

According to the PA Veterans' Burial Record, he was in the Pennsylvania Militia, not in the Infantry. I've found militia service harder to pin down. Although he is buried in Bethlehem, he's not on the SUV graves database although both Abraham and John do appear as buried in Bethlehem

 

[Stryker65]

The 32nd Pennsylvania militia was part of the Ninety-Day militia. The majority of the regiment was mustered in June 26, 1863, and was mustered out August 1, 1863. Known as the "Gray Reserves," possibly due to the age of the men (similar to the 37th Iowa Graybeards), the unit was commanded by Colonel Charles S. Smith, Lieutenant Colonel Isaac Starr Jr., and Major Frank P. Nicholson. None of these officers had seen previous service.

 

[Jack7171]

According to the PA Veterans' Burial Record, he was in the Pennsylvania Militia, not in the Infantry. I've found militia service harder to pin down. Although he is buried in Bethlehem, he's not on the SUV graves database although both Abraham and John do appear as buried in Bethlehem

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And he is indeed buried next to brother John in Nisky Hill Cemetary,,I saw them myself on Sunday,,,Well I guess that answers the question,,between all the results found from everyone,,Charles DID indeed serve. I noticed it appears all 3 boys served at different times, and I'm guessing so that it didn't leave mother home alone. When the war broke out she was already a widow, and had already buried 3 of her 6 children,,the 3 boys were all she had left, so they took turns staying with her throughout the war, instead of all 3 running off at once leaving her completely alone. Thank you all for being so gracious with your time, and this information will be added to historical interpretation of the Schropp Dry Goods Store museum in Bethlehem.

Schropp Dry Goods Shoppe | Historic Bethlehem Museums & Sites

Schropp Dry Goods Shoppe information, Moravian merchandise, gifts, Historic Bethlehem Museums & Sites tours and museum admission

www.historicbethlehem.org

The Moravian settlement in Bethlehem Pennsylvania was recently designated a World Heritage Site, so Bethlehem museums and sites organization is upping their museum game and I'm helping them by squeezing in and raising awareness of the Moravian contribution within the community, during the Civil War. Even though the Moravians were historically quite anti war pacifists, their position softened considerably when the civil war broke out, as they saw the war as a unique war. Not fought over land, resources, Govts, but over freedoms and the protection of the Union as a whole. So the Moravian support for the war, is history that needs to be included, not swept away, and I am grateful to have them show interest in increasing the civil war history presence within their agenda, as opposed to so many who are trying to erase it

 

[Nathan Stuart]

The name of 'Sgt. Charles W. Schropp' shows on the roll of Co. F, 32nd. PA Emergency Militia Regiment. (See below link @ p. 1248).

History of Pennsylvania volunteers, 1861-5 prepared in compliance with acts of the legislature : Bates, Samuel P. (Samuel Penniman), 1827-1902 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Vol. 5

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This militia regiment of short duration was organized at Harrisburg on Jun. 26, '63, for the protection of PA against Lee's invasion and performed duty in the Department of the Susquehanna during the Gettysburg Campaign. The regiment mustered out on Aug. 1, '63.

 

[Story]

According to the PA Veterans' Burial Record, he was in the Pennsylvania Militia, not in the Infantry.

Point of Order but the 32nd PA Militia was an infantry regiment (think Federal, State and then State Militia as far as the pecking order goes). I vaguely remember those 90 day mobilizations were the minimum mandatory to qualify for a pension, which would imply to me that last week or so was spent twiddling their collective thumbs. Having finished my nit-picking, I wish a NeenerNeerer to all.

 

[Nathan Stuart]

I vaguely remember those 90 day mobilizations were the minimum mandatory to qualify for a pension,

Without needing to consider any question of Federal service for at least 90 days, believe members of home guard units and other state-mustered militia units were not eligible for a Federal Veterans pension with respect to that service.

 

[lupaglupa]

Ephraim Milton Woomer (1844-1897) - Find a Grave...

US Congressman. He was educated in Lebanon and enlisted for the Civil War as a member of Company A, 93rd Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment. Woomer attained the rank of Sergeant and lost a leg after he was wounded at the Battle of the Wilderness. After mustering out he taught school for several...

www.findagrave.com

now all the needs to be done is to figure the connection

Charles William Schropp (1830-1888) - Find a Grave...

Find a Grave memorial for Charles William Schropp born 15 May 1830 and died 3 Apr 1888. Buried at Nisky Hill Cemetery, Bethlehem, Northampton County, Pennsylvania, United States of America, North America

www.findagrave.com

The letters Gdn appear at the end of Woomer's name which likely means he received the benefit as a guardian for a minor.

 

[BCS1973]

I'm doing a bit of basic research for the museum in Bethlehem PA, about a certain family and their involvement in the ACW
The family is SCHROPP,,,and they had 3 sons,

Is that the Moravian Museum?

 

[Jack7171]

Is that the Moravian Museum?

The Goundie house/Schropp dry goods store that Historic Bethlehem Museums and Sites operates. They want to expound on the Schropp family information they present at the Goundie house museum, which adjoins the dry goods store