Authentic(ish) Camp Kitchen Equipment

9th US Regulars

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I've fallen in with a group that portrays a Headquarters detail. Besides the General, his staff, and the Provost Marshal, we leaned into a Commissary Kitchen impression. This included displays of marching rations and some camp food. I particularly enjoyed this, as it seemed pretty unique in the whole federal camp.

I'd like to try to improve the impression, though, with some more authentic cooking vessels. There's two types in particular that I'm looking for.

The Camp Kettle:
Described in the 1865 Quartermaster manual as
Camp Kettles, - to be of 3 sizes, made of good American sheet iron, and so as to fit into each other in nests of three, viz: - No.1, the largest size, should be 12 inches diameter and 11 ¾ inches deep, and to contain 4 ½ gallons. No. 2, to be 10 ¼ inches diameter, 11 ½ inches deep, and to contain 3 ½ gallons. No. 3, to be 9 ½ inches diameter, 11 ¼ inches deep, and to contain 2 ½ gallons. All to have iron wire bails, 5-16 of an inch diameter, the ends of which to be drawn down to a point. Weight of a nest of three kettles, 17 ¼ to 17 ½ pounds.

The Mess Pan
Described in the same manual:
Mess pans, - to be made of good American sheet iron, 11 ½ inches diameter at top, and 8 ½ inches at the bottom, 5 ¼ inches deep; to contain 5 quarts. Weight about 2 pounds.

The attached photo shows a soldier on the right holding one of the Mess Pans. It was a sort of serving tray, and a company kitchen was authorized 15 of these to serve 45 soldiers. There also appears two examples of the Camp Kettle sitting under the improvised table. I'm looking for fairly close representations of both of these items to go along with the 5-gallon wooden barrel I'll be getting to replace the plastic water cooler.

Does anyone have a lead on a source for the kettles and pans? "Close enough" is also acceptable as we're hardcore mainstreamers.

There are also photographs showing the use of cast iron pots. I'll likely get one of these as well, but pictures usually show these in more stationary camp quarters.

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That's not Axel's website. HDT made a few kettles for Rosecrans' Pursuit a few years ago, but I'm not even sure they are currently producing anything anymore. As far as I know, Axel only uses Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/groups/245821718869403

No one that I know of is currently making the nesting kettles. I reached out to Axel last summer about making some and he was not able to at the time. I believe he did make some to sell at Gburg this past year. I was able to find a local metal working to make some using the above dimensions. They didn't turn out all the great, but I was also able to find a local tinsmith to rework them.

If you can find some type of willing metal worker (like stove pipe), and provide the dimensions and a few images, they would likely be able to do it.

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As far as the mess pans, I actually saw some that Axel had made for sale at Fall Creek a few weeks ago. Fall Creek has actually stepped up their tin game. Not sure if this is something he regularly produces though. There's a lot of tinsmiths out there. Again, with the dimensions and an image, I'm sure someone would be able to reproduce them.
 
That's not Axel's website. HDT made a few kettles for Rosecrans' Pursuit a few years ago, but I'm not even sure they are currently producing anything anymore. As far as I know, Axel only uses Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/groups/245821718869403

No one that I know of is currently making the nesting kettles. I reached out to Axel last summer about making some and he was not able to at the time. I believe he did make some to sell at Gburg this past year. I was able to find a local metal working to make some using the above dimensions. They didn't turn out all the great, but I was also able to find a local tinsmith to rework them.

If you can find some type of willing metal worker (like stove pipe), and provide the dimensions and a few images, they would likely be able to do it.

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As far as the mess pans, I actually saw some that Axel had made for sale at Fall Creek a few weeks ago. Fall Creek has actually stepped up their tin game. Not sure if this is something he regularly produces though. There's a lot of tinsmiths out there. Again, with the dimensions and an image, I'm sure someone would be able to reproduce them.
Thanks for correcting me.
 
As far as the mess pans, I actually saw some that Axel had made for sale at Fall Creek a few weeks ago. Fall Creek has actually stepped up their tin game.
My gods, I hadn't even thought of FC Sutler but sure enough they have it listed on the website. Lemme whip out the credit card…
 
And this one has the 5gal kettles. Not sure if nesting kettles were actually available, as practically all the photos appear to show multiple ones of the same approximate 5gal size. I also saw a scan from a wartime manual that authorizes two 5gal kettles and five mess pans per 15 soldiers.

 

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