Artillery frags??

[CWLeadManiac]

I bought these as part of a lot of about 8 different artillery fragments. The others are easily identifiable as parts of Schenkl's, case shot, etc... but these have me stumped, (but I'm also a novice). The "donut" is around 2.3 inches across and the hole is .75 inches. The "nose cone" is just under 2 inches across, just over 2 inches high and seems to have very thin walls. I'm excited to see what the nose cone looks like after electrolysis but I'm also concerned that these aren't even artillery frags. As always, any help would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks in advance!!

 

[Cato3rd]

The second item is most likely a nose section to a shell. The first item I think is a washer that sat underneath the fuze but above the under-plug/ shipping plug. That's the best guess I can think of at the moment

 

[CWLeadManiac]

The second item is most likely a nose section to a shell. The first item I think is a washer that sat underneath the fuze but above the under-plug/ shipping plug. That's the best guess I can think of at the moment

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Hmmm...I don't think this is the washer because it's not leather. It's definitely iron. Maybe an iron washer? It sure looks the same!

 

[CWLeadManiac]

The second item is most likely a nose section to a shell. The first item I think is a washer that sat underneath the fuze but above the under-plug/ shipping plug. That's the best guess I can think of at the moment

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BTW, that's a GREAT diagram of a Bormann fuze and case shot! Thanks to that, I think I just identified another piece I have that was misidentified as a "fuze adapter".

The second item is most likely a nose section to a shell. The first item I think is a washer that sat underneath the fuze but above the under-plug/ shipping plug. That's the best guess I can think of at the moment

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