Collection Antietam

Beltplate53

Corporal
Joined
Oct 10, 2013
Location
Gettysburg, PA.
My case of relics from Antietam. Specifically from Burnside Bridge and just west on the Shade farm.
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My case of relics from Antietam. Specifically from Burnside Bridge and just west on the Shade farm.View attachment 338024
Be very careful about claims such as these, particularly Gettysburg, if you know the digger or have a rock solid provenance, fantastic! The area around Burnside Bridge has been Federal Property and doubtful relic hunters were legitimately digging around there even in the 1980s. There are some unscrupulous dealers who make labels, apply white paint to artifacts, indicating where found and using an old type writer to make labels, then artificially fading them.

There is currently an eBay seller who purchased a plate of legitimate bullets from the Ollinger or Rosensteel collection ICRC and was selling the bullets for years, with a photo copy of the original Horse Soldier letter. The plate only held 35 or so bullets......
 
On my first visit to Gettysburg as a very young kid in the early 70s, vendors around the park had buckets of mini balls etc they were selling very cheaply. IIRC the park was selling them as well. What would they be worth now?
 
On my first visit to Gettysburg as a very young kid in the early 70s, vendors around the park had buckets of mini balls etc they were selling very cheaply. IIRC the park was selling them as well. What would they be worth now?
That would depend upon the provenance, what is currently happening in Gettysburg are dealers selling bullets that say that they are from Gettysburg. While this may be true, it is misleading as the bullet is in Gettysburg, but not necessarily from the Gettysburg battlefield. A bullet purchased in the park with a vintage label would be worth much more than one by itself.

Back in the 70s when I was myself a youngster, my uncle built a metal detector for me, well we had to test it, so off to Gettysburg we went. We were very naively hunting around the copse of trees and found an incredible amount of detritus, when a very heavyset ranger came from the direction of the maintenance building huffing and puffing. He realized we had no clue as to what we were doing and asked if we found anything, I handed over a watering bit I had in my hand. He replied that it most likely belonged to a farm animal, but he needed to confiscate it and that he could impound the detector, car and fine us $10,000. We asked where we could go detect and he gave us directions to the house of one of the most successful hunters in the area. I was wearing military fatigues with multiple pockets full of buckles, bullets, bayonet and shrapnel pieces and waddled off to the car. The kind ranger had to know, but let us go on our way. We went to the house of digger and he welcomed us in and explained how and where to dig, he graciously showed us his collection which was enormous, I wish I could remember his name, IIRC he lived on Taneytown Rd.

Well some years later I went off to college and mom threw out all of those artifacts...…..
 
That would depend upon the provenance, what is currently happening in Gettysburg are dealers selling bullets that say that they are from Gettysburg. While this may be true, it is misleading as the bullet is in Gettysburg, but not necessarily from the Gettysburg battlefield. A bullet purchased in the park with a vintage label would be worth much more than one by itself.

Back in the 70s when I was myself a youngster, my uncle built a metal detector for me, well we had to test it, so off to Gettysburg we went. We were very naively hunting around the copse of trees and found an incredible amount of detritus, when a very heavyset ranger came from the direction of the maintenance building huffing and puffing. He realized we had no clue as to what we were doing and asked if we found anything, I handed over a watering bit I had in my hand. He replied that it most likely belonged to a farm animal, but he needed to confiscate it and that he could impound the detector, car and fine us $10,000. We asked where we could go detect and he gave us directions to the house of one of the most successful hunters in the area. I was wearing military fatigues with multiple pockets full of buckles, bullets, bayonet and shrapnel pieces and waddled off to the car. The kind ranger had to know, but let us go on our way. We went to the house of digger and he welcomed us in and explained how and where to dig, he graciously showed us his collection which was enormous, I wish I could remember his name, IIRC he lived on Taneytown Rd.

Well some years later I went off to college and mom threw out all of those artifacts...…..
Oh no! Tell me she didnt! Anyhow, I was in Gettysburg a few years ago and there was a dealer there selling minies and he reported them to be from somewhere in Va, Mechanicsville I think but am not positive on that at all. Anyway, he was not claiming them to be from PA and IIRC said it was illegal to relic hunt there.
 
All of my relics come with ironclad provenance. The Shade Farm was actually still in private hands until around 2000 with some of it being sold to the park service. I don't buy anything from Gettysburg unless it comes from two specific dealers and has solid provenance from a couple of well known collections. I won't even say how much I paid for a 12 Lb Borman from Little Round Top.
 
Be very careful about claims such as these, particularly Gettysburg, if you know the digger or have a rock solid provenance, fantastic! The area around Burnside Bridge has been Federal Property and doubtful relic hunters were legitimately digging around there even in the 1980s. There are some unscrupulous dealers who make labels, apply white paint to artifacts, indicating where found and using an old type writer to make labels, then artificially fading them.

There is currently an eBay seller who purchased a plate of legitimate bullets from the Ollinger or Rosensteel collection ICRC and was selling the bullets for years, with a photo copy of the original Horse Soldier letter. The plate only held 35 or so bullets......
Who's the seller
 
That would depend upon the provenance, what is currently happening in Gettysburg are dealers selling bullets that say that they are from Gettysburg. While this may be true, it is misleading as the bullet is in Gettysburg, but not necessarily from the Gettysburg battlefield. A bullet purchased in the park with a vintage label would be worth much more than one by itself.

Back in the 70s when I was myself a youngster, my uncle built a metal detector for me, well we had to test it, so off to Gettysburg we went. We were very naively hunting around the copse of trees and found an incredible amount of detritus, when a very heavyset ranger came from the direction of the maintenance building huffing and puffing. He realized we had no clue as to what we were doing and asked if we found anything, I handed over a watering bit I had in my hand. He replied that it most likely belonged to a farm animal, but he needed to confiscate it and that he could impound the detector, car and fine us $10,000. We asked where we could go detect and he gave us directions to the house of one of the most successful hunters in the area. I was wearing military fatigues with multiple pockets full of buckles, bullets, bayonet and shrapnel pieces and waddled off to the car. The kind ranger had to know, but let us go on our way. We went to the house of digger and he welcomed us in and explained how and where to dig, he graciously showed us his collection which was enormous, I wish I could remember his name, IIRC he lived on Taneytown Rd.

Well some years later I went off to college and mom threw out all of those artifacts...…..
Reminds me of a story that I was once told of my great grandmother burning my great grandfather's uniform from the Spanish American war because she was afraid it would attract moths!!
 
Reminds me of a story that I was once told of my great grandmother burning my great grandfather's uniform from the Spanish American war because she was afraid it would attract moths!!
I can top it, my Grandmother told me of her mother giving my GG grandfathers enlisted Virginia uniform away. She gave it and a hot meal to a tramp walking the railroad tracks that went thru the farm in exchange for some chores around the farmstead sometime in the early 1900's :cry:.
 

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