Ancestry.com DNA Test

I think many people are in the same knowledge bracket I was in when I first did Ancestry DNA a few years ago. To provide some context without sounding patronizing, here is a breakdown of what I've learned, which should help you get a better understanding of why you are seeing specific regions in your results. lets have some fun with it.

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You see Ancestry went back and found a masq... ok now to the good stuff



You have three major parts of your DNA: - it is googlable (I have a Trademark ;) )

Y-chromosome aka Y-DNA, BIG Y, Y-700 or which ever the company is calling it. Can only be transferred from father to son (Male) only

M- chromosome aka Mt-DND-Mitochondrial- shared by the mother to the daughter (Female) only

Then you have the common starter kits and services that DNA ancestry companies offer as Christmas gifts.

Autosomal DNA - which you get from both your mother and your father. This is why most companies only offer this because it gives you the biggest satisfaction for you buck.
I only know this because I went through the trial and error much like I see in above posts. Until I linked up with a maternal line DNA project that shed light on who and what and how DNA works vs written or verbal ancestry and then how that ties into books, and finally historical records.

"I am Scottish and I will wear my kilt until you tear it from my naked arse.. oh they were lowland scots and the tartan was not registered until 1980 in the US.. Stuff like thhhat ;)"

What you see with A-DNA has the potential to skip generations and certain mutations happen such as in Y-DNA. So seeing some unknown origin might not be something you can directly trace with your known generations, and as some of stated it goes by migration mapping.

I've found that people are more reluctant to confront facts that emerge from deep DNA analyses. Furthermore, the results sometimes contain generalities which turn out to be straightforward errors.

If you dig through family history be prepared for bumps! I have seen multiple family surnames turn out to be different based on alias and not adoption, affairs being brought to light etc. So be prepared, turned out two surnames were false in my line, and I have seen it in others as well.

Also the whole Cherokee Princes thing, is not really a thing, yes many Europeans married and had families with natives such as Cherokee and Creek etc.. but the Princess is a bit much. Also Native DNA is so under studied you would not be able to reliably track it.

Also the Mulato on census record etc.. that was up to the transcriber, much like how your surname is spelled. How was it annunciated to the ear of the transcriber and how did that person look.

I've seen a lot of intense reactions. The most common friction point occurs when someone's DNA analysis doesn't match the history they were told growing up. When you present verifiable records to back up the DNA findings, be prepared for significant pushback. It's just human nature to defend the narrative we know.

This is precisely why I'd likely double the suggested prices. My experience doing this type of deep-dive for friends has shown me just how much work it is—not just the research, but managing the sometimes difficult reactions from family members. I need to value my time and the emotional energy required, so I'd likely start my pricing around $10k. ;)

Just remember "LIFE ALWAYS FINDS A WAY" ;)
 
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As far as my LE access comments- on the surface having your DNA etc available to LE is a great idea, until it is not. Do we want to see bad guys put away great can it be abused I dunno, you tell me? My point was be cognizant of how your DNA is used because it is worth more than your SSN, bank accounts, or your next of kin for 4 generations at min. DNA is being used more and more by private companies.. Stay safe is all I was getting at.

Regardless of your position, keep an eye on your DNA sample, it is worth more than your bank account.
 
Are any of your grans clans sects of each other? Also in what part of Scotland? Were the Scot-Irish from the Scottish northern Ireland plantations?
 
Initially it had but now it's gone.
Gran was Clan Gunn//Anderson/Graham.
If you are trying to trace your grans clans you will need to follow her father, if it is her mother's clan line you will need to follow her mother's father. You might be able to get a modern sample of Y DNA through any direct male line of the two options mentioned. Hope this helps.
 
My father's line is genealogically proven to have come from part of what is now Germany. The Ancestry.com DNA test showed properly my mother's Scotch-Irish descent, but at first ignored my father's lineage by showing no descent from continental Europe - their database was wrong. Since then Ancestry DNA has changed/corrected/updated their database and the same original DNA test of mine now correctly shows at least a significant portion of my father's family descent from what is now Germany.

Ancestry DNA is FAR from perfect, but it has improved over the last 8 years or so.
 
My father's line is genealogically proven to have come from part of what is now Germany. The Ancestry.com DNA test showed properly my mother's Scotch-Irish descent, but at first ignored my father's lineage by showing no descent from continental Europe - their database was wrong. Since then Ancestry DNA has changed/corrected/updated their database and the same original DNA test of mine now correctly shows at least a significant portion of my father's family descent from what is now Germany.

Ancestry DNA is FAR from perfect, but it has improved over the last 8 years or so.
The term used here is Scots-Irish.
Scotch is used for food and drink.
I remember back in 1985 being on holiday in Dubrovnik and I was at the bar and an English lady said;,"oh,your Scotch" and I said;"no,I'm Scottish,Scotch is a drink."
Really ticked me off being referred to as Scotch.
 
The term used here is Scots-Irish.
Scotch is used for food and drink.
I remember back in 1985 being on holiday in Dubrovnik and I was at the bar and an English lady said;,"oh,your Scotch" and I said;"no,I'm Scottish,Scotch is a drink."
Really ticked me off being referred to as Scotch.
Sorry about that. I picked it up from my great grandfather who used the term incorrectly as I do. I'll try to correct my usage of the term "Scotch" and use "Scottish."
 
My father's line is genealogically proven to have come from part of what is now Germany. The Ancestry.com DNA test showed properly my mother's Scotch-Irish descent, but at first ignored my father's lineage by showing no descent from continental Europe - their database was wrong. Since then Ancestry DNA has changed/corrected/updated their database and the same original DNA test of mine now correctly shows at least a significant portion of my father's family descent from what is now Germany.

Ancestry DNA is FAR from perfect, but it has improved over the last 8 years or so.
I recently watched a video about German DNA. Basically, to be Germanic is to speak German and identify culturally. There are 49 distinct groups of German DNA, and they contain a remnant left over from the Ice Age that gave them immunity to the Black Plague in many areas. I got the impression, perhaps in error, that Anglo-Saxons were speaking a Germanic dialect, but were more related to Frisians than Germans.
 
I will say that the 25% share the update gave me in connection to southern Poland feels pretty much perfect, as both of my paternal grandfather's parents were born in Austrian Galicia. Ancestry has really upped their game in central-east Europe recently.
Please note that Galicia was half Polish (west part with Krakow) and half Ukrainian ( east part ). Greetings from Poland!
 
Just a couple of notes from someone who used to teach basic genetics and genealogy to anthropology students:

1. Your DNA makeup is your entire family history, not just the last 5 or 10 generations so Neanderthal traits can be recognized. Most well researched family trees usually don't go back further than the 18th century.

2. Family trees don't always tell the whole story because families sometimes hide information or don't tell the truth about family members or they make mistakes or they don't know the information so they make it up. The key to good family trees is lots of documentation NOT family hearsay. Documentation gets scarcer the further back in time you go. Of particular importance are marriage records. Your ggg Uncle John Doe married ggg Aunt Jane Doe who was from a different village in northern Scotland. What do you know about her family? This has been a bone of contention in my family because my mother maintained there were NO Norwegians in her family. She forgot about the Norse occupation of the region. Many of my students learned all sorts of family secrets when they worked on their family tree assignment. One common finding was that the woman they identified as their mother was actually their aunt or cousin or . . .

3. Identifying the correct ggg Uncle John or Aunt Jane Doe is critical. Families often use the same names over and over and within the same generation. I had two cousins named Douglas Wallsmith. My paternal grandfather and my dad were both Anton Wallsmith and there is a third Anton Wallsmith born around the same time as my dad, who is my grandfather's nephew and my dad's first cousin. To bring it closer to the subject of this forum, there are two George W Nobles in the Millen POW database. Both are from Illinois and about the same age but they aren't related according to a descendant.

4. There are two sides to every family tree, not just one. People often know the history of one side of their family better than the other. This often occurs when family come from a part of the world where historic documents are scarce. I have an acquaintance who is very proud of the fact that her mother's family tree extends back into the 1600s. When asked about her father's side, she claims it isn't important. Your DNA comes from both parents.

5. Databases are only as good as the information they contain but they get better/more accurate as they grow. The early Ancestry database was small but has grown with more and more samples being submitted. The scientists responsible are now able to identify genetic markers unique to specific groups of individuals. In my case, my German heritage has been further refined to recognize our Volga German roots, specifically from Herzog, Ober-Munjou and Pfeifer (communities along the Volga River) as well as their journey to northern Kansas.

6. DNA doesn't lie.
 
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Oh man there must of been a lot of crying students in your class 😲
Kinship was never my favorite topic to teach but the family tree assignments were interesting. I learned a lot. The object of the assignment was to get students thinking about what constitutes "family". I kept the guidelines fairly flexible, the only "must" was at least 4 generations and both mother's and father's family. They were also allowed to add/subtract family members if wanted. Many students came to me and said they had cut ties with their family so the guidelines allowed them to make up a family if they weren't comfortable/able to create a "blood kin" tree. Many of my students were related to Han Solo and Princess Leia, Harry Potter and other famous fictional characters. It was interesting for me and most of the students enjoyed thinking about and discovering their families.
 
My father's line is genealogically proven to have come from part of what is now Germany. The Ancestry.com DNA test showed properly my mother's Scotch-Irish descent, but at first ignored my father's lineage by showing no descent from continental Europe - their database was wrong. Since then Ancestry DNA has changed/corrected/updated their database and the same original DNA test of mine now correctly shows at least a significant portion of my father's family descent from what is now Germany.

Ancestry DNA is FAR from perfect, but it has improved over the last 8 years or so.
The Ancestry DNA database improves every time a new sample is submitted. See my comments below.
 

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