Ammen's Brigade

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The more I look into Ammen's Brigade, the more disappointed I am in how little it seems to be covered by contemporary historians. I don't think I have ever found an accurate portrayal of the brigade throughout the entire Civil War. Despite the abundance of easy-to-find primary records regarding it. But the way Shiloh historians portray it seems incredibly negligent. Does anyone know why the brigade is always ignored? Would anyone be interested in a book about it?
 
According to Colonel Ammen's Official Report* (which includes excrepts from his diary) the casualties experienced by the 10th Brigade at Shiloh.

The 10th arrived in the field of battle late in the afternoon of April 6 in the midst of a terrible rain storm.

Number engaged according to David Reed's The Battle of Shiloh and the Organizations Engaged**
The 10th Brigade engaged in Battle

36th Indiana 380
6th Ohio 508
24th Ohio 100

The 10th Brigade casualties as reported
36th Indiana 8 KIA 37 WIA 2 MIA 47 Total
6th Ohio 2 KIA 5 WIA 2 MIA 9 Total
24th Ohio 5 KIA 64 WIA 29 MIA 98 Total
10th Brigade 15 KIA 106 WIA 33 MIA 154 Total Casualties

Looking at the total casualty figurea as reported my not look spectacular but they advanced South along the Hamburg-Savannah Road along past the Bloody Pond and into Sarah Belle's Peach Orchard and Cotton Field eventually resting along the Hamburg-Purdy Road. I have speculated that this brigade was directed to bury Rebels in a massed grave just South of their encampents on Monday, April 7th. I am listing a former thread that covers this subject***



*Official Records of the Rebellion
Series 1, Volume X, Part 1

page 337

**The Battle of Shiloh and the Organizations Engaged by David Reed
Page 100

***https://civilwartalk.com/conversati...-trenches-at-shiloh.59941/#convMessage-467419
 
According to Colonel Ammen's Official Report* (which includes excrepts from his diary) the casualties experienced by the 10th Brigade at Shiloh.

The 10th arrived in the field of battle late in the afternoon of April 6 in the midst of a terrible rain storm.

Number engaged according to David Reed's The Battle of Shiloh and the Organizations Engaged**
The 10th Brigade engaged in Battle

36th Indiana 380
6th Ohio 508
24th Ohio 100

The 10th Brigade casualties as reported
36th Indiana 8 KIA 37 WIA 2 MIA 47 Total
6th Ohio 2 KIA 5 WIA 2 MIA 9 Total
24th Ohio 5 KIA 64 WIA 29 MIA 98 Total
10th Brigade 15 KIA 106 WIA 33 MIA 154 Total Casualties

Looking at the total casualty figurea as reported my not look spectacular but they advanced South along the Hamburg-Savannah Road along past the Bloody Pond and into Sarah Belle's Peach Orchard and Cotton Field eventually resting along the Hamburg-Purdy Road. I have speculated that this brigade was directed to bury Rebels in a massed grave just South of their encampents on Monday, April 7th. I am listing a former thread that covers this subject***



*Official Records of the Rebellion
Series 1, Volume X, Part 1

page 337

**The Battle of Shiloh and the Organizations Engaged by David Reed
Page 100

***https://civilwartalk.com/conversati...-trenches-at-shiloh.59941/#convMessage-467419
I will have to sort through a lot to quote this, so a proper response might take a bit.
1. The 24th Ohio had 300 engaged.
2. Sherman credited Ammen's brigade with saving the Union in the battle.
3. The burials you describe were very well recorded to have happened.
4. The 24th Ohio only had 1 MIA and I think 7 KIA.
 
Take your time as very little moves quickly here
Regards
David
I realize writing the response I intended would take way too long, and at that point, I might as well write a whole article. So instead, I recommend reading "General Nelson Saves the Day at Shiloh" by Edwin C. Bearss. It is well-written, well-researched, and properly cited. "But What Should We Say: The Story of a Fallen Patriot" by Donald A. Clark is worth reading, but its focus is on an individual event rather than the whole engagement. I will write an article but make it a separate post for the reader's convenience. Sorry, it took so long to respond.
 
Thank you for the recommendation. I was unaware of Ed Bearss's article. I found it on JStor and noted it was written in 1965. I read it with interest and learned a few things. I thought there was a childhood connection between Jacob Ammen and Ulysses Grant. But after reading the article I researched Jacob Ammen and found he had graduated from West Point in 1831. Grant graduated in 1843 and there was 16 years difference in age between Grant and Jacob Ammen. It was Daniel Ammen, Jacob's brother, who was Grant's childhood chum who fished him out of a creek and saved him from drowning.

I also found the other article on JStor, and it was certainly worth reading. It clarifies some things and goes into detail about Irving Carson, Grant's scout who was beheaded alongside Grant as Nelson's troops marched up the landing at Shiloh early evening of April 6, 1862. Somewhere I remember I saw a picture of Irving Carson in a book but don't remember where. At the end of Clark's article, he mentioned a picture of Irving Clark had been donated to the Chicago Historical Society. Having spent many hours at the Chicago Historical Society searching for the truth about Shiloh since you do not get it from the park when you visit, I discovered the photograph of Irving Carson and took a picture of it which I have included in this post.

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If you think Shiloh historians seem incredibly negligent when it comes to the portrayal of Ammen's brigade try Brigadier General Benjamin Prentiss, the Hornets' Nest, the Sunken Road, Colonel David Moore, first Shiloh historian David Wilson Reed, and Duncan Field. To describe the treatment of those items by Shiloh historians as incredibly negligent would be too kind. Easy to find primary sources and information reveal the misquoted sources; the false attributions to sources; the falsehoods; the misinterpretations; the lack of scrutiny of sources used; the lack of evidence to support spurious claims; and the fact that they just make things up to suit their false narrative.

I have never found an accurate portrayal of what really happened concerning the opening of the battle and the patrols sent out from Peabody's brigade led by Colonel David Moore and Major James E. Powell. To try to figure it out you must go from book to book to book and piece it together with the help of your own research.

When I explain to people who are interested in what really happened at Shiloh and how the history as currently presented by the park is not supported by the evidence and how the historians have filled Shiloh books with falsehoods about Prentiss and the other items noted they ask me: "Why would they do that? And I answer, "I don't know."

If you feel Ammen's brigade has been ignored, then you are going to have to fix it. If you feel historians have served an injustice on Ammen's brigade, then you are going to have to fix it. I have pointed out to the American Battlefield Trust the errors and falsehoods contained in their Shiloh video of over a year ago and told them they needed to retract it. Copies went to the SNMP superintendent. They don't care. The video is still up.

You are not alone when you state disappointment in Shiloh historians.

There is conflicting, or inadequately researched, information concerning the arrival of Nelson's division the night of April 6, 1862. I think anybody with a more than passing interest in Shiloh would read an article, or a book, about Ammen's brigade and Nelson's arrival at Shiloh. I know I would.

Best wishes in your endeavors. Just informing people of the Ed Bearss's article is a good start.
 
When I explain to people who are interested in what really happened at Shiloh and how the history as currently presented by the park is not supported by the evidence and how the historians have filled Shiloh books with falsehoods about Prentiss and the other items noted they ask me: "Why would they do that? And I answer, "I don't know."
I've only been into the American Civil War for a bit over a year, but since the first day I started looking into it, this has been my exact experience. It was my intention to avoid offense by calling it negligence, but I genuinely don't know what it should be called. I remember thinking things seemed a bit off in some of the documentaries I had seen. So I started actually reading the first-hand accounts, official reports; which often seem to omit major details; and books written post-war by veterans. And they almost always seem to be a whole world away from the contemporary interpretation. I'm not a historian, but I think that any hobbyist could teach more than many, but not all, historians.
 
If you feel Ammen's brigade has been ignored, then you are going to have to fix it. If you feel historians have served an injustice on Ammen's brigade, then you are going to have to fix it. I have pointed out to the American Battlefield Trust the errors and falsehoods contained in their Shiloh video of over a year ago and told them they needed to retract it. Copies went to the SNMP superintendent. They don't care. The video is still up.
I wrote this post because I just started working on my own video on Shiloh. I was wondering if anybody is even interested in that, but I intend to publish it even if there is no interest. I'm still working on assembling my own maps, as I don't think a single map I've seen is even close to accurate. But once that is done, the rest of the project is comparatively simple.
 

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