Additional Items Found From Same Location, Can Anyone Identify??

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Here are some additional items unearthed from the same location that a friend of mine found. Here is what he describes them as. Anyone know what they are??

The 1st item is strange, it has a ball end. Resembles a gun type hammer crossed with a friction primer. Maybe it's a locking mechanism. I thought it might have been an actual cannon part, but I don't know. 2nd item resembles a Civil War 3 ring bullet, but it is solid iron with a round base. I thought it could be an artillery shell fragment. However, this fragment is broken in half but solid all the way through, not hollowed. I can't find any examples of a solid shot artillery shell, only cannonballs. 3rd item, possibly an artillery shell bottom or base. 3 holes in a perfect line going right to left, with an ever so faint etched or molded circle around the center hole. Plus, you can see on the rim how it screwed or twisted into place.
 

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I believe the last item is a base plate from a stand of grape shot. What throws me is the treads on the side Ive never seen a stand of grape plate with threads. It doesn't match up to any artillery shell base either. What are the dimensions on it? paging @redbob

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I believe the last item is a base plate from a stand of grape shot. What throws me is the treads on the side Ive never seen a stand of grape plate with threads. It doesn't match up to any artillery shell base either. What are the dimensions on it? paging @redbob

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None of the smoothbore or rifled canisters that I looked at had a grooved or stepped base plate and the stands of grape didn't either. The only grooved baseplate that I could find was for a stand of quilted grape (grapeshot that instead of being held together by rings, was arranged around a central shaft, enclosed in a canvas bag and held together by wrappings of heavy twine) and it only had a single groove or step.
 

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