9th Texas Infantry Flag

Okay, somebody correct me here if I'm wrong.

I was under the impression that a regiment usually carried two flags, if both were available. One was the national flag. The other was the regimental flag. The regimental flag was specifically designed for the regiment, and often incorporated some aspects of the national flag, with the regimental number sewn in prominently, and perhaps a motto or another state symbol attached.

Due to battlefield confusion, the Confederate Battle Flag was often substituted for the Confederate national flag. And often the regimental flag would have some elements of either the national flag or the battle flag incorporated in it (depending in part upon when the regiment was created).

But this picture appears to be a Confederate Battle Flag without any particular regimental inscription. It may have been the replacement for the "national" flag for the regiment, but wouldn't there have been another regimental flag, peculiar to that regiment with some special identifying marks?
 
Here's the other 9th Texas Flag.

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Confederate units much more typically only carried a battle flag, be it of the Polk, Hardee (CLeburne), or "ANV" style (the later is the one we are all most familiar with and was later adopted by all the Armies). They did not typically carry a specific regimental flag and the battle flag. Federal Units would carry a National Color, as well as a regimental or state color. (FWIW, Battalions of less than 5 Companies were not authorized any colors.)
 
I have seen that 9th TX. Battle Flag at the Texas Civil War Museum here in FT. Worth.

Some years back a fellow I knew in the 9th TX. Red River Battalion wanted me to make up some Buck-n-Ball loads, so they could shoot them in a newly reproduced flag that one of their members had made...so I did.

Well, I saw that flag AFTERWARDS, and they for all intent and purposes shredded the thing!:eek: I told the feller never to ask me to help him with THAT again!

It was a thing of beauty, but they sure made it look real "used"!

Kevin Dally
 
Great link! I'll actually be up in the Spanish Fort/Ft. Blakely area next weekend where the 9th fought It's last battle. Blakely is extremely well preserved, unfortunatley the same cannot be said for Spanish Fort. As housing developments have pretty much covered the original site. Definitley a stark reminder of the importance of battlefield preservation...
 
Great link! I'll actually be up in the Spanish Fort/Ft. Blakely area next weekend where the 9th fought It's last battle. Blakely is extremely well preserved, unfortunatley the same cannot be said for Spanish Fort. As housing developments have pretty much covered the original site. Definitley a stark reminder of the importance of battlefield preservation...

I visited Spanish Fort a few years ago, but had been forewarned about the development by Bill Scaife who also had an ancestor in the 9th Texas. At least they put up markers.
 
I visited Spanish Fort a few years ago, but had been forewarned about the development by Bill Scaife who also had an ancestor in the 9th Texas. At least they put up markers.

Great link! I'll actually be up in the Spanish Fort/Ft. Blakely area next weekend where the 9th fought It's last battle. Blakely is extremely well preserved, unfortunatley the same cannot be said for Spanish Fort. As housing developments have pretty much covered the original site. Definitley a stark reminder of the importance of battlefield preservation...

The size of the flag as reported is incorrect. It is 14 feet on the fly. the size of a garage wall!

What you will find if you look carefully at Blakely is that while the breastworks are magnificient, the log work is not. Powder magazine IIRC uses creasoted old telephone poles and the locations are wrong. There is quite a controversy in Baldwin County about Ft. Blakely. After you leave Blakeley, go down to Robertsdale and go to the courthouse annex there and see the Ft. Blakely Garrsion flag that is my Avatar. I was involved in getting the State of Illinois to make the permanent loan of the flag to the state of Alabama. One accomplishment that I am extremely proud of. I was present for the dedication in 2008. That flag is 9 feet on the staff and 12' on the fly. The confederate soldier standing guard in my Avatar is almost 6 feet tall..
 

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