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On what date did General Lee hold his last council of war, and who else attended?

credit: @chellers

Bonus

I was first a slave, then a union army veteran, and would later go on to be a buffalo soldier as well.
Later in life, I had only one child. This child was the first black athlete from this school and would tragically die from injuries sustained while playing in only his 2nd college football game.

Who am I?
Who was my son?
What team/college did my son play football for?

credit: @CheathamHill
 
Date April 8, 1865
Attendees. Robert E Lee, John Brown Gordon, James Longstreet, Fitzhugh Lee

Bonus.
I was Green Trice
My son was John G "Jack" Trice
He played for Iowa State



https://books.google.com/books?id=O...v=onepage&q=lee's last council of war&f=false

I was very careful in not copying over my answer with the link.

Interestingly, the link below has Longstreet not in attendance but has Pendelton there. But this is the only source that shows those attendees. I found several sources showing the attendees I listed above.

https://books.google.com/books?id=8...john brown gordon last council of war&f=false
 
Question 1:
At midnight, April 9, 1865, Robert E. Lee held his last counsel of war with James "Old Pete" Longstreet, John Brown Gordon, and Fitzhugh Lee.

Sources:
Appomattox: The Last Days of Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia
By Michael E. Haskew, p 192

A Life of General Robert E. Lee
By John Esten Cooke, p 438

Question 2: This is a flawed question, as Green Trice, father of Jack Trice, was born in 1864. He was a former slave and a Buffalo Soldier, but could not have been a Union soldier. (unless they were taking recruits at the age of 2 in 1865)

Green Trice
John G. "Jack" Trice, Iowa State College at Ames. (My grandfather and grandmother met at, and graduated from, this college in the 1920's)

Sources:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=61818453gr&GRid=
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=61818530
 
April 9, 1865. General Mahone and Longstreet.
bonus-Green Trice - Jack Trice - Iowa State Cyclones.

Edit - The surrender was on April 9 and Mahone was present for that, but the last council of war took place the previous evening, April 8, and I could find no source saying that he was present.

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April 8, 1865 near Appomattox Court House. The council was attended by John Gordon, James Longstreet and Fitzhugh Lee.

bonus: Trice was born in Hiram, Ohio in 1902, the son of a former slave and Buffalo Soldier, Green Trice. As a child, Trice was active in sports and demonstrated outstanding athletic skills. In 1918, Trice's mother sent him to Cleveland, Ohio to live with an uncle. Trice attended East Technical High School where he played football. In 1922, Trice followed five of his teammates, as well as his former high school coach, Sam Willaman, to Iowa State College in Ames, Iowa.

You are Green Trice
Your son is Jack Trice
You played for Iowa State College
 
Ere long Fitz Lee arrived, as did (General) Gordon, on a like summons. With these and with Longstreet, began Lee's last council of war. The commander stood by the fire. Longstreet sat on a log, smoking his pipe. Gordon and Fitz Lee stretched themselves out on a blanket. Staff officers and perhaps some of the brigade and division commanders sat nearby but not within earshot.

Gordon was ordered to begin his (last) attack at 1 a.m., April 9th 1865. Therefore the last council of war was held on the night of April 8th 1865 and was over just before midnight. The clock ticked over to April 9th as Gordon and Fitz Lee rode away.

Gordon and Fitz Lee rode off. Longstreet prepared to make his bed on the ground, with his saddle for his pillow and the saddle blanket for his covering...It was then about midnight, the beginning of one of the three or four most memorable dates in American history, April 9, 1865, Sunday, Palm Sunday
.

Freeman - Chapter 8
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/People/Robert_E_Lee/FREREL/4/8*.html

BONUS:
You are Green Trice
Your son is Jack Trice
He played football for Iowa State College

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"We don't know if it was an accident, or if it was because he was his team's best player or if he was hurt because he was an African American," said Jones, who wrote the book "Football's Fallen Hero: The Jack Trice Story" in 2000"

http://www.aaregistry.org/historic_events/view/jack-trice-isu-football-legend


...and during this painful search (thank you very much, @CheathamHill !) I learned far too many sad things about late 19th and early 20th century collegiate football deaths. Man, football was really brutal back then.
 
Maj. Gen. Fitzhugh Lee was Robert E. Lee's nephew, and participated in his uncle's final council of war on April 8 (1865) with Generals Longstreet and Gordon.
sources: http://digital.lib.umd.edu/image?pid=umd:86519 &
http://www.civilwar.org/battlefield...court-house-history/appomattoxcourthouse.html


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BONUS (Great Question):
You were: Green Trice
Your son was: John G. "Jack" Trice
He played for: Iowa State College (now Iowa State University).


At the time he played for Iowa State, he was also the only African-American competing in sports for any of the Big Six Conference schools. Trice died due to injuries suffered during a college football game against the University of Minnesota on October 6, 1923.

On October 5, 1923, the night before his second college football game, Trice wrote the following in a letter on stationery at a racially segregated hotel in Minneapolis/St. Paul (the letter was later found in Trice's suit just before his funeral):
"My thoughts just before the first real college game of my life: The honor of my race, family & self is at stake. Everyone is expecting me to do big things. I will. My whole body and soul are to be thrown recklessly about the field tomorrow. Every time the ball is snapped, I will be trying to do more than my part. On all defensive plays I must break through the opponents' line and stop the play in their territory. Beware of mass interference. Fight low, with your eyes open and toward the play. Watch out for crossbucks and reverse end runs. Be on your toes every minute if you expect to make good. Jack."

In 1973, Jack Trice's legacy was renewed and a promotion began to name Iowa State's new stadium after him. In 1974, Iowa State University's student body government voted unanimously to endorse this effort. In addition, the Jack Trice Stadium Committee compiled more than 3,000 signatures from supporters. However, an Iowa State University ad hoc committee voted to advise then-Iowa State University President W. Robert Parks to name the stadium "Cyclone Stadium."

In 1984, the stadium was named Cyclone Stadium and the playing field was named "Jack Trice Field." The ISU student body government, wanting to do more to honor Trice, raised money to erect a statue of Trice in 1987. Due to the persistence of the student body government, students, alumni, faculty and staff, and other supporters (including public figures such as Paul Newman, Hubert Humphrey, and Nikki Giovanni), the football stadium at Iowa State University was finally named Jack Trice Stadium in 1997. Jack Trice Stadium is currently the only Division I stadium or arena to be named after an African-American.
 
On what date did General Lee hold his last council of war, and who else attended?

The meeting occurred on April 8, 1865 and was attended by General Fitzhugh Lee, General James Longstreet, and General John Brown Gordon.



Bonus:

Who am I? Green Trice

Who was my son? John G "Jack" Trice

What team/college did my son play football for? Iowa State College


 
Late evening of April 8, 1865. In addition to Lee the attendees were James Longstreet, John B. Gordon and Fitzhugh Lee.
Reference: R. E. Lee by Douglas Southall Freeman, Volume IV, Chapter 8, pages 114 - 115.

Bonus: Green Trice (10th US Cavalry) was the father of John G. "Jack" Trice. Jack was fatally injured playing in a football game for Iowa State College (now Iowa State University) against Minnesota on October 6, 1923. He died two days later.
http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2014/11/25/7275681/jack-trice-iowa-state-football-profile
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=61818530
 
Friday Bonus:
Green Trice was the father. I couldn't find a source that mentions his Union service, but everything else fits.
Jack Trice was the son.
Iowa State University which eventually named their football stadium for Jack Trice in 1997
Sources:
http://aaregistry.org/historic_events/view/jack-trice-isu-football-legend
Wikipedia article, "Jack Trice"

On my regular Friday question answer, I forgot to bold the participants (Longstreet, Gordon, Fitzhugh Lee), sorry!
 
April 8, 1865
In addition to General Robert E Lee, the others in attendance were James Longstreet, John B Gordon, and Fitzhugh Lee. http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Appomattox_Campaign

BONUS:

I believe you are referring to Green Trice, father of John "Jack" Trice. Jack Trice was the first black athlete at Iowa State College (now Iowa State University) and died as a result of injuries sustained in his second college football game. However, there are a couple of items that do not match up with the wording of the question.
http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2014/11/25/7275681/jack-trice-iowa-state-football-profile

Green Trice (father of Jack Trice) was born in 1864 in Hardeman TN. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=61818530 Although Green Trice was a "Buffalo Soldier" in the 1oth US Cavalry, he would not have been a baby at the time of the Civil War and not old enough to fight. It is possible that Green was born a slave. His parents were slaves and it is possible they were still enslaved in 1864 when Green was born. Perhaps it was Green's father (Jack's grandfather), George Wallace Trice, who served in the Union Army during the CW? It is possible he is the "George Trice" listed as a member of the 112th U S Colored Troops?
 
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