Trivia 9-25-17 So sad

[Trivia Master]

What was The saddest event Gen. Grant witnessed during the war.

credit: @mofederal

Make Up Bonus: What state was described as, "too small to be a republic and too large to be an insane asylum?"

credit: @JohnW.

 

[Wallyfish]

First question. Battle of the Crater , Petersburg Va.

https://www.recreation.gov/marketin...tle_of_the_Crater_at_Petersburg__Virginia.htm

Bonus question. The state was South Carolina.

https://www.charlestoncitypaper.com...-to-challenge-confederacy/Content?oid=3245766

Hopefully the computer change was not too painful. Glad to be back playing. Thank you so much.

 

[Jimklag]

Main question - The blowing up a mine under the rebel lines at Petersburg making the Crater failing to create a breakthrough was the sad thing Grant saw.

Bonus - South Carolina

 

[Schwallanscher]

regular:

the battle of the crater

bonus:

south carolina

 

[SWMODave]

Battle at the Crater - Grant also called it a stupendous failure

Map from Civil War Trust

Link

And the bonus question is South Carolina - stated by a guy (Petigru) who couldn't spell

 

[Mike Serpa]

Battle of the Crater
South Carolina

 

[FarawayFriend]

Regular question:

That would probably be the Battle of the Crater, July 30th, 1864
Allow me a little book advertising:
Into the Crater : the Mine Attack at Petersburg / By Earl J. Hess.

From the book review:
With fresh insights, adroit research in all manner of sources, and previously unpublished photographs and field maps, Hess takes readers into the Crater once more so that we might better understand the magnitude of this historical event, which Grant deemed "the saddest affair I have witnessed in the War."
https://www.sc.edu/uscpress/books/2010/3922.html


Bonus:

(with all due respect to our members from South Carolina): the state was/is South Carolina, the quote coming from her Attorney General, James L. Petigru

"After South Carolina seceded in 1860, Petigru famously remarked, "South Carolina is too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum." This quote is still used to describe contemporary South Carolinian politics."
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_L._Petigru&oldid=787505253

 

[Stony]

The Battle of the Crater. Grant considered the assault "the saddest affair I have witnessed in this war." Lt. Colonel Henry Pleasants, a mining engineer from northeastern Pennsylvania, proposed digging a tunnel (in essence a mine shaft) beneath the Confederate lines and then setting off explosives to pierce the Southern defenses. The Union troops would then storm the breach with the prospect of a significant breakthrough on the Petersburg front.
source-wiki
South Carolina - After South Carolina seceded in 1860, Petigru famously remarked, "South Carolina is too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum."
source-wiki

 

[DBF]

Question
The Battle of the Crater, and according to the book: The Man Who Saved The Union (by H.W. Brands) page 314: General Grant told Halleck this and ended with "Such opportunity for carrying fortifications I have never seen and do not expect again to have".

Bonus
It looks like that was said by James Petigru (Union leading) regarding his native state of South Carolina.
https://www.charlestoncitypaper.com...-to-challenge-confederacy/Content?oid=3245766

 

[GS]

1) Grant's saddest day was the fall of the Confederate Army, the "downfall of a foe that had fought so long and valiantly"...

2) James Petigru spoke of South Carolina when he stated those words, "too small for a republic and too large to be an asylum".

Edit - Grant may have had mixed emotions about the downfall of his foe, but I don't think he considered that his saddest day.

hoosier

 

[nextcity]

Battle of the Crater

Bonus: South Carolina

 

[Brenal]

The Battle of the Crater.

Bonus:
South Carolina

 

[RochesterBill]

Battle of the Crater

South Carolina

 

[truthckr]

The Battle of the Crater

bonus: South Carolina

 

[István.AT]

Bonus: South Carolina.

Main question: Don't know, but I'll make a guess. Catastrophic attack at Cold Harbor?

Edit - You get credit for one correct answer out of two, Istvan.AT. Welcome to the trivia game.

Cold Harbor wasn't a bad guess. Grant may well have considered it as the second saddest affair he ever witnessed.

Hope you'll come back and play again.

hoosier

 

[Tomasz]

The saddest affair was Petersburg assault on 30th July 1864.
The state in question is South Carolina.

 

[adisciu9]

Battle of the Crater
South Carolina

 

[ErnieMac]

The Crater.
Bonus: South Carolina.

 

[MRB1863]

Battle of the Crater
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Bonus: South Carolina

 

[Greg Taylor]

What was The saddest event Gen. Grant witnessed during the war.

credit: @mofederal

Make Up Bonus: What state was described as, "too small to be a republic and too large to be an insane asylum?"

credit: @JohnW.

The Battle of the Crater.