4th Tennessee Cavalry Confederate

[Stryker65]

Does anybody know where I can find a good history of the 4th Tennessee Cavalry (Confederate)? This is W. S. McLemore's 4th, formerly James Starnes' 3rd. I usually go to tngenweb for Tennessee regiment histories but the site does not have a history for this unit.

 

[East Tennessee Roots]

Does anybody know where I can find a good history of the 4th Tennessee Cavalry (Confederate)? This is W. S. McLemore's 4th, formerly James Starnes' 3rd. I usually go to tngenweb for Tennessee regiment histories but the site does not have a history for this unit.

The military annals of Tennessee. Confederate. First series: embracing a review of military operations, with regimental histories and memorial rolls : Lindsley, John Berrien, 1822-1897, ed : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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[DixieRifles]

"Tennesseans in the Civil War", Part 1, published during the Bicentennial contains pretty good unit histories. I may be able to copy a few pages for you.

 

[Stryker65]

"Tennesseans in the Civil War", Part 1, published during the Bicentennial contains pretty good unit histories.

That's what tngenweb uses for its Confederate unit histories; I guess they just forgot Starnes' regiment.

I may be able to copy a few pages for you.

Would be much appreciated!!

 

[DixieRifles]

good history of the 4th Tennessee Cavalry (Confederate)? This is W. S. McLemore's 4th, formerly James Starnes' 3rd.

This gets a little confusing as there were two "4th Tennessee Cavalry Regiments:
+ 4th (Murray's) Tenn Cav Regt &
+ 4th (Starnes' - McLemore's) Tenn Cav Regt {Originally called 3rd Tenn Cav Regt}.
Welcome to the mixed up world of Confederate cavalry organization.
The 3d Tenn Cav was Nathan B. Forrest's original regiment. I searched it to look for an explanation of how Starnes' regiment broke off but I dont see any mention of this.

Here is first paragraph about Starnes' Regt.

"Organized as Starnes' 8th Cavalry Battalion December 11, 1862; increased to regiment May 36, 1862 at Camp Robertson, Bledsoe County; last record in Dibrell's Brigade, General Joseph Johnston's Army January, 1865."

Is this the regiment you are interested in?

Within its history is another perplexing statement:
"This regiment is not to be confused with Baxter Smith's Regiment, which was usually called the Forth, but officially designated as the 8th Tennessee Cavalry; not with 4th (Murray's) Regiment, which was the forerunner of Baxter Smith's 8th (4th)."
The next paragraph begins the history by stating it was originally known as "Starnes' 8th Battalion" that was formed at Camp Cheatham and increased to a regiment on May 26, 1862.

I need another cup of coffee ️. Mind boggling.

Some of the campaigns & battles:
1862 Richmond, Kentucky
Streight's Raid (Company K)
Chickamauga - present but no specific mention of it.
Sevierville Tenn- skirmish Feb 4, 1864
Wheeler's Raid on Sherman's supply began on June 30, 1864.
Battle of Saltville, VA Oct 2, 1864 and rejoined Wheeler at Savannah, GA.
Attached to General Forrest about beginning of 1865. Gen Forrest placed them under the command of Gen J R Chalmers onJan 29, 1865 at Verona, Miss. Another report says Dibrell was at Gainesville, GA with detachments of the 4th Tenn, though no definite information.
Surrendered with Johnston's Army at Greensboro, NC.

I will try to get these pages copied where they will be legible. These pages are big.

 

[Stryker65]

This gets a little confusing as there were two "4th Tennessee Cavalry Regiments:
+ 4th (Murray's) Tenn Cav Regt &
+ 4th (Starnes' - McLemore's) Tenn Cav Regt {Originally called 3rd Tenn Cav Regt}.
Welcome to the mixed up world of Confederate cavalry organization.
The 3d Tenn Cav was Nathan B. Forrest's original regiment. I searched it to look for an explanation of how Starnes' regiment broke off but I dont see any mention of this.

Here is first paragraph about Starnes' Regt.

"Organized as Starnes' 8th Cavalry Battalion December 11, 1862; increased to regiment May 36, 1862 at Camp Robertson, Bledsoe County; last record in Dibrell's Brigade, General Joseph Johnston's Army January, 1865."

Is this the regiment you are interested in?

Yep, that's it.

I actually did a series of mini histories about the five units that either preceded or made up Baxter Smith's regiment.
page 12-13

 

[DixieRifles]

I actually did a series of mini histories about the five units

It is brief. I dint think my book matches exactly. Sometimes it isnt really clear on details.

Quote your link:

"Bledsoe's Tennessee Cavalry Battalion was formed in November, 1862, with recruits from Bragg's Murfreesboro campaign and Murray's 4th Cavalry Regiment. However, it failed to complete its organization and was consolidated with Murray's regiment and Smith's 8th Cavalry Regiment (1st organization) to form Smith's 8th Cavalry Regiment (2nd organization). Major Willis Scott Bledsoe was in command."

 

[Stryker65]

Haha, I used the Crute format.

 

[DixieRifles]

Would be much appreciated!!

I havent forgotten you. This large format book with glossy pages and hard to copy. The best choice would be to use iPhone and shoot 4 images per page.
Sometimes I take these images and insert into a WORD doc and convert to PDF.
Here is a sample. I will open a conversation to send the other pages—when I get them copied and edited.
{click image to enlarge}

 

[DixieRifles]

@Stryker65
I found a FB post with a photo of John A. Arnold who served as a private in 18 Tenn Infantry and then as an officer in the 4th Tennessee Cavalry.

 

[Jackson Hornets]

I havent forgotten you. This large format book with glossy pages and hard to copy. The best choice would be to use iPhone and shoot 4 images per page.
Sometimes I take these images and insert into a WORD doc and convert to PDF.
Here is a sample. I will open a conversation to send the other pages—when I get them copied and edited.
{click image to enlarge}

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May I ask you to show the rest of this page showing Company K under Captain Francisco Rice?

This regimental history gets more interesting, because this company K and at least one other were recruited entirely from Jackson and Madison counties in North Alabama. My 4th great-grandfather signed up in Bellefonte under Captain Rice who was from North Alabama as well.

 

[gjpratt]

May I ask you to show the rest of this page showing Company K under Captain Francisco Rice?

This regimental history gets more interesting, because this company K and at least one other were recruited entirely from Jackson and Madison counties in North Alabama. My 4th great-grandfather signed up in Bellefonte under Captain Rice who was from North Alabama as well.

I have been researching Nashville swords and their makers for several years. Many College Hill officers swords survive and in good condition and they have been found in abundance in northern and Midwest states. That is because of the Ft. Donelson surrender — they ended up as war trophies before any appreciable field use. The common denominator is that most of the captured Confederates were from brigades and regiments that mustered in and trained at Camp Cheatham just outside Nashville. I was initially surprised when I started seeing a few College Hills inscribed to Alabama soldiers, but quickly made the connection to Camp Cheatham. I have developed good circumstantial evidence that College Hill had a retail outlet that catered to these officers, wherever they were from.

There is a surviving College Hill inscribed to A.A. Dysart, 4th TN Cavalry who was kia at Thompsons Station in March 1863

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but just noticed the connection of Alabama cavalrymen to Camp Cheatham and the 4th Tennessee that I have been studying.

 

[Bruce Allardice]

Yep, that's it.

I actually did a series of mini histories about the five units that either preceded or made up Baxter Smith's regiment.
page 12-13

Stryker:

A few additions and suggestions to your (terrific) list of non-Crute units:

Girault may have been a LA militia colonel, but doubt he commanded the 46th MS Inf Bn with the Confederate rank of colonel
Thurston is Alexander James Dallas Thurston
Dowdle is William Minter Dowdle
Upton is John Dowdy Upton

 

[Stryker65]

Stryker:

A few additions and suggestions to your (terrific) list of non-Crute units:

Girault may have been a LA militia colonel, but doubt he commanded the 46th MS Inf Bn with the Confederate rank of colonel
Thurston is Alexander James Dallas Thurston
Dowdle is William Minter Dowdle
Upton is John Dowdy Upton

Wow, thanks! I'm happy you like it! I'm a big fan!

As to Girault, he was assigned to command the battalion in November, 1862, but the company commanders protested against his appointment and the assignment was annulled.

 

[Stryker65]

I havent forgotten you. This large format book with glossy pages and hard to copy. The best choice would be to use iPhone and shoot 4 images per page.
Sometimes I take these images and insert into a WORD doc and convert to PDF.
Here is a sample. I will open a conversation to send the other pages—when I get them copied and edited.

May I ask you to show the rest of this page showing Company K under Captain Francisco Rice?

This regimental history gets more interesting, because this company K and at least one other were recruited entirely from Jackson and Madison counties in North Alabama. My 4th great-grandfather signed up in Bellefonte under Captain Rice who was from North Alabama as well.

Everyone, I have finally gotten around to transcribing what @DixieRifles sent me. Here is a pdf of the transcribed work:

 

[Bruce Allardice]

Wow, thanks! I'm happy you like it! I'm a big fan!

As to Girault, he was assigned to command the battalion in November, 1862, but the company commanders protested against his appointment and the assignment was annulled.

One more: for Lemoyne's 17th AR, the Major was Commodore Stephen Decatur Lawrence, not Williams. He was a lawyer in Yell County prewar, bc 1832 KY.
You do great work!

 

[Jackson Hornets]

Everyone, I have finally gotten around to transcribing what @DixieRifles sent me. Here is a pdf of the transcribed work:

Thank you for this! I had overlooked my 3x great grandpa's muster rolls in Company K, 4th Tennessee Cavalry Regiment for years because he was from Alabama. I had never thought previously to look in a border state's unit.

 

[Sowbelly and Hardtack]

 

[Sowbelly and Hardtack]

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[Jackson Hornets]

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I was under the impression that this book was about a different 4th Tennessee Cavalry Regiment, as I'm referring to (McLemore-Starnes') 4th Tennessee Cavalry Regiment. Thanks for sharing regardless!