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In 1864 a young New York Tribune journalist boarded a special train to Washington to inform president Lincoln about an important campaign. He was received by the president and his cabinet, but the reporter also had a personal message for Lincoln, who, subsequently, dismissed his cabinet and the journalist then imparted his message, which was received with great joy.

1. Who was the journalist?
2. What was the message?
3. What was Lincoln's reaction to the message?

credit: @sarladaise

Bonus: Who were the Union three-star generals in the Civil War?

credit: @Saphroneth
 
Bonus:

That should be Winfield Scott and Ulysses S. Grant.

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http://theworldsmilitaryhistory.wik...ls_of_the_United_States_Army_from_1798_-_1969
 
1. Who was the journalist? Henry E. Wing
2. What was the message? A message from General Grant...."There will be no turning back"
3. What was Lincoln's reaction to the message? Lincoln gave him a kiss on the cheek.

archive.org/details/reporterforlinco00tarb/page/12

Bonus:
Winfield Scott received a brevet promotion to lieutenant general in 1855 which he held until he retired on November 1, 1861
On March 2, 1864, Lincoln promoted Ulysses S. Grant to lieutenant general

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lieutenant_generals_in_the_United_States_Army_before_1960

Edit - Though it seems that most sources indicate Lincoln kissed Wing on the forehead, the source provided here says he kissed him on the cheek. I intend to give credit for answers that say Lincoln kissed Wing, regardless of the location of the kiss.

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First question:

1. Henry E. Wing
2. "General Grant told me to tell you, from him, that, whatever happens, there is to be no turning back."
3. "Mr. Lincoln put his great, strong arms about me and, carried away in the exuberance of his gladness, imprinted a kiss upon my forehead."

Bonus : Brevet Lieutenant General Winfield Scott and Lieutenant General Ulysses S. Grant both wore three stars during the war.
 
1. Henry E Wing

2. Wing's message -- "General Grant told me to tell you, from him, that, whatever happens, there is to be no turning back" -- greatly reassured the commander-in-chief in the light of the defeat of the Union army at the Battle of the Wilderness.

3.
"Mr. Lincoln put his great, strong arms about me and carried away in the exuberance of his gladness, imprinted a kiss upon my forehead," Wing later wrote. The President asked what he could do for the journalist, who responded that he wanted to go back to get his horse Jesse: "I said I'd come back to get him, and I never lie to horses, Mr. President." Wing later wrote: "That early morning interview with Lincoln was the beginning of a strong friendship accorded to me, a mere boy, by that wonderful man."

The President provided Wing with a train and military escort to retrieve Jesse, who was like Lincoln a native of Kentucky. When Wing brought the horse to the White House for a party of journalists, Lincoln asked Wing if he could ride Jesse.

As Wing prepared to leave the grounds that day, Lincoln told him: "You will be coming to Washington sometimes and remember this, that when you do I want you always to come and see me. It is an order. You are to tell me all you hear and see."
 
1. Henry E. Wing
2. Wing relayed a message from Grant following the battle of the Wilderness. Wing said "He told me I was to tell you, Mister President, that there would be no turning back."
3. He kissed Wing on the cheek.
Source: A Reporter for Lincoln by Ida Tarbell

Bonus: Ulysses S. Grant, William T. Sherman, Philip H. Sheridan.
 
1. Who was the journalist? Henry Wing
2. What was the message? There Will Be No Turning Back
3. What was Lincoln's reaction to the message? Kissed the reporter

Source

Bonus: Who were the Union three-star generals in the Civil War? - Had to use multiple sources on this one.
First one was General Scott who had the rank of brevet lieutenant general and thus three stars - source
Second was General McClellan who as major general commanding general of the army had three stars for a short time - source (this thread includes the regulation enpowering major general commanding to wear three stars and I confirmed this was in force in 1861)
Third was General Halleck for the same reason as McClellan source
Finally, lastly General Grant, who was the first officer since Washington to hold the rank of Lieutenant General. - source

Since the question limited the answer to 'generals', I did not include US Navy personnel.
And the question limited the answer to 'in' , Civil War generals that attained the rank after the war were not included.
 
New York Tribune journalist Henry E. Wing struggled through Union lines to report the Union defeat at the Battle of the Wilderness in early May 1864. Union troops held him at Union Mills, until a telegram arrived that asked Wing to tell President Lincoln where General Grant was now located. Wing offered to report everything he knew in return for permission to file a 100-word report on the battle. In Wing's own words:

"A locomotive was sent down for me, and about two o'clock in the morning I reached the White House, where the President had gathered his official family to meet me. As I stepped into the room where they were seated my glance caught a quick gleam of surprise and apprehension in Mr. Lincoln's eyes, and I was awakened to a sense of my disreputable appearance. My hair was disheveled, my shabby old coat was dusty and wrinkled, my pantaloons, much too long, were folded back at the bottom and gathered about my ankles with pieces of cotton twine, and my coarse shoes were coated three or four layers thick with 'sacred soil.' I had met, perhaps, every one of this company at public functions or in private interviews, but not one of them recognized me in this garb. As my glance swept around the group it rested on the genial countenance of a particular friend, Mr. Gideon Welles, of Hartford, Connecticut, the Honorable Secretary of the Navy. As I advanced and accosted him he identified me by my voice. He then presented me, with much embarrassing formality, to the others."
"A half hour or more was spent in description of the movements of the troops, and in explanation, from a large map on the wall, of the situation at the time when I left. Then, as the company was dispersing, I turned to Mr. Lincoln, and said: Mr. President, I have a personal word for you."
"The others withdrew and he closed the door and advanced toward me. As he stood there I realized as never before how tall he was. I looked up into his impassive face, ready to deliver Grant's message. He took a short, quick step toward me, and, stooping to bring his eyes level with mine, whispered, in tones of intense, impatient interest, 'What is it?'"
"I was so moved that I could hardly stammer: General Grant told me to tell you, from him, that, whatever happens, there is to be no turning back."
"The vision that opened through those wonderful eyes from a great soul glowing with a newly kindled hope is the likeness of Mr. Lincoln that I still hold in my memory, and ever shall. And that hope was never to be extinguished. Others had 'turned back.' Every other one had. But there had come an end of that fatal folly."
"Mr. Lincoln put his great, strong arms about me and, carried away in the exuberance of his gladness, imprinted a kiss upon my forehead. We sat down again; and then I disclosed to him, as I could not do except in the light of that pledge of the great commander, all the disheartening details of that dreadful day in the wilderness. But I could assure him that the Army of the Potomac, in all its history, was never in such hopeful spirit as when they discovered, as the close of a day of disappointment, that they were not to 'turn back.

Bonus: Winfield Scott, Ulysses S. Grant, William Sherman, John A. Schofield

(Nelson A. Miles served as a two-star general in the Civil War, but was only made three star, or Lieutenant General, in 1900.)
 
In 1864 a young New York Tribune journalist boarded a special train to Washington to inform president Lincoln about an important campaign. He was received by the president and his cabinet, but the reporter also had a personal message for Lincoln, who, subsequently, dismissed his cabinet and the journalist then imparted his message, which was received with great joy.
1. Who was the journalist?
2. What was the message?
3. What was Lincoln's reaction to the message?
credit: @sarladaise
Henry E. Wing (1839-1925) brought a message from Grant following the defeat at the Battle of the Wilderness. "General Grant told me to tell you, from him, that, whatever happens, there is to be no turning back".
Wing described Lincoln's reaction: "Mr. Lincoln put his great, strong arms about me and carried away in the exuberance of his gladness, imprinted a kiss upon my forehead".
<Ida M. Tarbell, Reporter for Lincoln: Story of Henry E. Wing Soldier and Newspaperman. (New York: Curtis Publishing, 1926).>

Bonus: Who were the Union three-star generals in the Civil War?
credit: @Saphroneth
Grant was the only regular Lieutenant General. Winfield Scott, although regular Major General, had served as brevet Lieutenant General since 1847.
 
regular:
  1. henry ebenezer wing
  2. "general grant told me to tell you, from him, that whatever happens, there is to be no turning back"*
  3. lincoln kissed wing on the forehead
* henry ebenezer wing: when lincoln kissed me (p38) - the book can be downloaded for free

bonus:

  1. ulysses simpson grant
  2. winfield scott - he was only breveted to lt general
i discarded william tecumseh sherman, philip henry sheridan, john mcallister schofield and nelson appleton miles as none of them was a lt general within the civil war's timeframe. they all attained that rank later in their respective careers, though.
 
This took place right after the Battle of the Wilderness as Lincoln eagerly awaited news.
1. The reporter was Henry Wing
2. The message from Grant was "He told me I was to tell you, Mr. President, that there would be no turning back."
3. Lincoln kissed the reporter

Source: Simpson. Ulysses S. Grant: Triumph Over Adversity

Bonus:
Ulysses S. Grant (later General of the Army, 4 stars) was the only three star General in the Civil War although Winfield Scott was a Brevet Lieutenant General in the regular army from 1847.

(A few got promoted to Lieutenant General after the CW. Sherman, Sheridan, Miles, Schofield)
 
The reporter was Henry E. Wing, the message was a personal one from Grant to Lincoln after the Wilderness campaign (whatever happens, there is to be no turning back), and Lincoln responded by hugging Wing and kissing him on the forehead.

http://www.abrahamlincolnsclassroom...ntemporaries/abraham-lincoln-and-journalists/

Bonus:

Only one man was a full three-star (lieutenant general) in the Union army: Ulysses Grant.

However, Winfield Scott had the brevet rank of lieutenant general as a carryover from receiving that honor during the Mexican War.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/grant-nominated-for-lieutenant-general

So, if we're being technical about non-brevet lieutenant generals/3 star generals: 1 (Grant). If we're including brevets: 2 (Grant and Scott).
 
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