Trivia 1-5-18 Spot the Problems

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Answer: "This photograph is a montage or composite of several images and does not actually show General Ulysses S. Grant at City Point. Three photos provided different parts of the portrait.

The Library of Congress has negatives or prints that show:

(1) the head, from Grant at his Cold Harbor, Va. headquarters (LC-B8175- 2);

(2) the horse and man's body, from Maj. Gen. Alexander McDowell McCook (LC-B817- 7204); and

(3) the background, from Confederate prisoners captured in the battle of Fisher's Hill, Va. (LOT 4181).

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2007681056/


Bonus: David Acheson, Company C, 140th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5903871#
 
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This is a famous picture of General Grant addressing his troops on horseback at
City Point. Can you spot three things WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?

hint: 3 problems

credit: @TinCan

bonus:
I was born in Washington County Pennsylvania in 1841. My men and I saw intense action at Gettysburg on July 2nd near the Stoney Hill. When my First Lieutenant, and close friend, Isaac Vance, was severely wounded in the arm, I began to cry. Shortly afterwards, I was hit by two confederate balls which ended my life. My body remained on the Gettysburg Battlefield for several days before I was moved and buried in view of the Abraham Trostle farm. My initials were carved in a rock by my grave. My family came to Gettysburg and found my grave by seeing my carved initials. I was later re interned back in Washington Pa. Today, many Gettysburg Battlefield visitors seek out my rock carving.

Who am I and what was my regiment?

credit: @Wallyfish

The picture is a composite of three different photographs.

Bonus: You are Captain David Acheson Captain of Company C, 140th Pennsylvania Volunteers.
 
Picture is in reverse?

Edit - Sorry, Fish, I don't think the picture is in reverse. Even if it were, you would have needed to name two other problems to get credit for a correct response.

Welcome to the trivia game, anyway. Hope you'll come back and play again.

hoosier
 
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I thought I'd better be more specific on the photo question.
The head comes from a June 1864 portrait of Union leader Grant standing next to a tree in Cold Harbor, Va.
The horse and the rider's body were borrowed from a July 1864 photo of Maj. Gen. Alexander McDowell McCook.
And the setting can be found in this 1864 photo of Confederate prisoners who were captured in the battle of Fisher's Hill, Va., and put under Union guard.
 
Main Question: http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/cwp/mystery.html The photo is a composite, Scratch marks suggest that the photograph was made by combining different images. It's actually a composite or montage photograph. Long before the advent of Photoshop, people figured out how to manipulate images and make invented scenes look real. Shows only one star ranking instead of three,
Horse is not his horse Cincinnati. Body is not his, but Major General Alexander McDowell McCook. Not in the article, but if addressing the troops they are all facing away.
Bonus: To follow
 
I can only see that the shadow from grant's hat brim seems to fall left while the tent shadows seem to fall right. I see the disappearing horse just behind Grant's back, but that's not wrong, just accountable to the slow shutter exposure used at the time.

Edit - Good point about the shadow, byron ed, but you would have needed to identify two other problems to get credit for a correct response.

hoosier
 
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Are you saying this photo is a fake?? It looks it to me.
The sun on General Grant isn't the same as the shadows on the background.

Edit - Yes, it's a fake, and you're right about the sun and the shadows, but you would have needed to identify two other problems to get credit for a correct response.

hoosier
 
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Solving a Civil War Photograph Mystery
Grantmys15886r.jpg

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2007681056/
Is this photo fact or fiction? The title information on the bottom left corner of the print says "General Grant at City Point," so the image claims to show General Ulysses S. Grant on horseback, in front of his troops at City Point, Virginia, during the American Civil War. But, once you look closely at the content of the photo, questions begin to surface.

Let's work through the puzzle together, and unravel the mystery. By learning to question what you see in photographs, you can become a better history detective.

Questions
Is that General Grant?

The face resembles Grant, but the head joins the body at an odd angle and the uniform seems wrong for the time period.

GrantCityPoint15886detail.jpg

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2007681056/ (detail)
If the photo shows Grant at City Point, then it would have been taken in June 1864 or later while City Point was his headquarters during the siege of Petersburg, Virginia.1 By June 1864, Grant should have three stars on his shoulder straps to indicate his March 1864 appointment by President Abraham Lincoln to the rank of General-in-Chief for the union forces.2 Only one star is visible, however, and there doesn't appear to be room for two more on the shoulder strap in the picture.

Why is Grant, who was noted for his skill and ease around horses, sitting so rigidly on his mount? And, come to think of it, is that really Grant's horse?

GrantCityPoint15886horse.jpg

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2007681056/(detail)
GrantHorses01695u.jpg

Grant's horses (left to right): Egypt, Cincinnati, and Jeff Davis, Cold Harbor, VA, 1864
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/cwp2003004802/PP/ (detail)
Grant's favorite horse at the time was Cincinnati, but Cincinnati didn't have a "sock" (white hair) around his left hind ankle as this horse does. Nor does the horse look like Grant's other horses Although Grant's horse Egypt had a sock on his left hind foot, Egypt's neck had a different shape and his mane fell in the opposite direction.

And on the subject of appearance, Grant wasn't quite that stout around the middle, was he?

With these questions in mind, let's explore who made the photo and how by comparing the "City Point" image to other photographs and by doing some research in written sources.

Close Looking and a Dip Into Photo History
When you look closely at the photograph, you can see small scratch marks around Grant's head, and around the horse's body.

GrantCityPointhorsemane.jpg

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2007681056/ (detail showing scratch marks)
GrantCityPointhead.jpg

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2007681056/ (detail showing scratch marks)
These marks suggest that the photograph was made by combining different images. It's actually a composite or montage photograph. Long before the advent of Photoshop, people figured out how to manipulate images and make invented scenes look real. They exposed negatives multiple times, sandwiched two negatives together, or pasted parts of different pictures together and photographed the result. This montage is skillfully done and hard to detect unless you look twice.

The notation "Copyright 1902 by L.C. Handy" is another important clue. The copyright date suggests that the photo was created considerably after the Civil War. Levin C. Handy (1855-1932) was the nephew of Mathew Brady, who oversaw the making of many Civil War photographs that have survived in public and private collections [view Mathew B. Brady – Biographical Note]. Handy was apprenticed to Brady at the age of twelve and went on to operate photographic studios in Washington, D.C. He had access to Civil War photos through his uncle's negatives, many of which eventually entered the collections of the Library of Congress [view Brady-Handy background information].

So the next question is, which photographs did Handy use to create this imaginary portrait of Grant at City Point in order to illustrate Grant's important role in the Civil War?

The Photo Search: Sleuthing and Happenstance
Grant's Head

The easiest photograph to identify is the source for Grant's face. Searching the Prints and Photographs Online Catalog for "Grant City Point," reveals a June 1864 portrait of Grant at Cold Harbor, Virginia. The original negative was at one time identified incorrectly as "Grant at City Point," perhaps giving Handy the title for his 1902 composition.

Grant04407.jpg

Edgar Guy Fowx, photographer. Gen. U.S. Grant at his Cold Harbor, Va., headquarters [June 1864].
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/cwp/item/cwp2003001331/PP/


Grant's(?) Body

By searching for the word "horseback" in the Civil War photographs section of the Prints and Photographs Online Catalog and then browsing visually through the results, you'll soon see that a portrait of Major General Alexander McDowell McCook provided the man's body and the horse. McCook saw most of his action in the Western theater of the war, not in the Petersburg area of Virginia, and the information with the original negative indicates the photograph was made in the vicinity of Washington, D.C.

GrantBody03862.jpg

Washington. D.C., vicinity. Maj. Gen. Alexander M. McCook on horseback, Brightwood, 1864 July. Wet collodion glass negative.
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/cwp2003000961/PP/
GrantMcCook3c04949.jpg

Major General A.McD. McCook. Photographic print made from negative at left, photographed 1864 July, printed later.
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/91482854/



Background of the Picture

Searching the online catalog for "tents," "soldiers," and other features visible in the 1902 photo's background does not uncover the source for the final part of the montage. Sometimes, serendipity plays a role in detective work. It takes browsing Civil War photographs regardless of their topic to spot that the soldiers in the "Grant at City Point" picture are not Grant's men at all—quite the opposite.

Grantmysback15835.jpg

Confederate prisoners captured in the Battle of Front Royal being guarded in a Union camp in the Shenandoah Valley.
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2007684716/
The last piece of the puzzle is a photo of Confederate prisoners captured at in the Battle of Front Royal in 1862. Union General Philip H. Sheridan outflanked Confederate General Jubal A. Early for further control of the valley, taking Confederate soldiers prisoner in the process.3 The Confederate soldiers had no connection to Grant and were nowhere near City Point, but their plight became a handy background to highlight Grant's leadership nearly 40 years later.

http://www.nps.gov/history/logcabin/html/cp11.html. [back to text]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ug18.html; United States War Department. Revised United States Army Regulations of 1861. Philadelphia, G.W. Childs, 1863; "Civil War Uniforms of the United States Military," based on Historical Times (Illustrated) Encyclopedia of the Civil War edited by Patricia L. Faust, http://www.civilwarhome.com/uniformsunion.htm. [back to text]

http://www.nps.gov/history/hps/abpp/shenandoah/svs3-13.html. [back to text]

Acknowledgment: Prints & Photographs Division staff prepared this case study in 2008 from a Civil War photo mystery solved and explained by Kathryn Blackwell, former Reference Assistant, Prints and Photographs Division, acting on a question received from a researcher in 2007.

Source: http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/cwp/mystery.html
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Bonus: Captain David Acheson, commander of Company C, 140th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry

Edit - See edit to post # 7.

hoosier
 
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Grant has one star, rather than 3.

The horse isn't one Grant rode; it has white hair around its ankles, which Cincinnati (his favorite horse at the time) did not have.

Grant's head joins his body at a strange angle; also note the scratches around his head and the horse's body.

The photo itself was made using multiple photos to create a "montage" of sorts.

Bonus: David Acheson, 140th PA
 
That image is actually a very early 1902 attempt at photo-shop. According to the LOC:
"This photograph is a montage or composite of several images and does not actually show General Ulysses S. Grant at City Point. Three photos provided different parts of the portrait. The Library has negatives or prints that show (1) the head, from Grant at his Cold Harbor, Va. headquarters (LC-B8175- 2); (2) the horse and man's body, from Maj. Gen. Alexander McDowell McCook (LC-B817- 7204); and (3) the background, from Confederate prisoners captured in the battle of Fisher's Hill, Va. (LOT 4181)."

As for the "problems" I am going to have to guess that we are to address inconsistencies?
1. The sword. Grant reportedly "never wore a sword or a sash after becoming a brigadier, even on parade days for review."
2. No cigar. "Grant always went at a hand-gallop when following the movement of his troops, an unlighted cigar clinched[sic] in his powerful jaws."
3. That's not Grant's body, uniform or horse. :D "While on the march or campaign General Grant carried his flat-brimmed hat down over his eyes, and wore a coat supposed to be one that had done duty at Vicksburg."
Quotes from here: The United Service, "Generals in the Saddle: Famous Men in Both Armies Who Were Good Horsemen." From The Rider and Driver. Jan 1, 1892, page 97. https://play.google.com/books/reade...ec=frontcover&output=reader&hl=en&pg=GBS.PA97

BONUS:
Capt David Acheson, Co C 140th Pennsylvania (10 Jan 1841 - 2 July 1863)
http://john-banks.blogspot.com/2011/11/faces-of-civil-war-captain-david-acheson.html
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5903871/david-Acheson


Edit - Your first paragraph identified the three problems the questioner had in mind, but since you then went on to show three answers in bold, I have to assume that those are the three problems you want to use as your answer.

Your source supports your contention that Grant never carried a sword after becoming a brigadier, so that is a legitimate problem with the photo. However, the photo is supposedly of Grant addressing his troops at City Point. While Grant might have had a cigar clenched in his teeth while following the movement of troops, I wouldn't think he would have tried to continue holding a cigar in his teeth while speaking to them.

hoosier
 
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1) Grant is not actually there as that shot was taken. Essentially, he is "photoshopped" in. I have seen the photo without him.
2) isn't this a photo of Union men looking out at a batch of Rebel prisoners?
3) Cavalry soldiers in the foreground and all are looking away from Grant

Bonus: Captain David Acheson 140th Pennsylvania

Edit - I'm not sure how you concluded that the soldiers in the foreground were cavalry, but you are correct that the fact they are looking away from Grant is a problem with the picture.

hoosier
 
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1) Grant's horse is floating over the field (crappy photoshop job)
2) He's facing away from the troops. Kinda hard to address them that way.
3) The troops are sitting down when a General officer is present. If not previously put *at ease*, their NCOs would be kicking them to the position of attention.

Edit - While none of these are the problems that the author of the question had in mind, I agree that all three can be considered problems, so you get 10 points for a correct answer to the main question.

Welcome to the trivia game, Story. Hope you'll come back and play again.

hoosier
 
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http://listverse.com/2014/02/15/10-strange-mysteries-of-the-civil-war/

Grant a great horseman is sitting uncomfortably on his horse, his head is at an uncomfortable angle, he seems to have gained a lot of weight, the uniforms seems to be from a different time period The photograph is a fake. The body is from
General Alexander McCook, the head of grant is from another photo of Grant, the background is not City Point, but really captured Confederate prisoners at Fort Fisher. The photo is a real mess and today we would say photo shopped. I have been to City Point and it does not look like City Point at all.

https://www.civilwar.org/learn/articles/death-burial-guideposts-gettysburgs-dead

Captain David Acheson 140th PVI.
 
1) I believe this photo is actually of Confederate prisoners (in the background) and their guards, taken in late 1864 in the Shenandoah Valley after either Third Winchester or Cedar Creek; 2) the mounted figure has been primitively "photoshopped" by cropping and inserting it onto this photo; 3) and strangest of all, Grant's HEAD has been superimposed onto the body of the mounted figure. (The mounted man may have been Maj. Gen. Wm. "Baldy" Smith, if I remember right from a discussion of this I read somewhere.)
 
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