Trivia 03-15-19 & Bonus

[Trivia Master]

I was born in Conklin NY in 1840. During my life, I was an author, newspaper writer, politician, and soldier. I was at Gettysburg as part of the 6th Wisconsin regiment and led a not so well known charge on July 1st. Hancock himself named the charge by saying "Good. But it is the first xxxx xxxxx charge I ever knew anything about". My charge started near the Lutheran Theological Seminary despite being ordered by a major to stop the charge. I would not disobey General Wadswoth's original order. I later became an adjutant for the famous Iron Brigade who I assisted (plus others) in my charge. I died in 1922.

Who am I?
What is the name of my charge?

credit: @Wallyfish

Bonus:

Later half of Sept.1863, I performed a heroic feat that saved myself and Lilly comrades in arms. A live hissing cannonball hit close by and ricocheted right at us.
1) Who am I?
2) What was the feat?
3) What was the post war reason for his stubborness and his comment?

credit: @JOHN42768

 

[hughes]

Jerome Watrous
Mule Train Charge

 

[ErnieMac]

Main question: You are Jerome Watrous and you led the Mule Train Charge.

 

[hughes]

BONUS: A guy should really read the whole entry to see if there is more than the original question.

Who am I: Sidney Speed
What ws the feat: picking up a shell with the fuse still burning and throwing it "over the house"
Post war reason etc.: Speed sought recognition for his parents' service to the Underground Railroad more than a medal

 

[General Casey]

Jerome A Watrous
The "Mule Train Charge"

 

[Jimklag]

1st question: Jerome Anthony Watrous conducted the "Mule Train" charge.

Bonus: Sidney Speed; threw a live shell over a cabin, saving many lives; what comment?

 

[Brenal]

Jerome Anthony Watrous.
The Mule Train Charge.

 

[DBF]

Question
You Are: Jerome Anthony Watrous
Your Charge: "Mule Train Charge"
http://unionreenactor.com/Gburg assets/MuleTrainHerdegen.pdf

Bonus
You Are: Union Private Sidney Speed
Your Feat: You picked up a shell with the fuse still burning and tossed it away from the Lilly artillery where it exploded harmlessly behind the Alexander house during the battle of Chickamauga.
Question 3 - not quite sure what you are referring to in the part of the question and I only found one quote I that was said 50 years after the war when his grandson tried to get the Medal of Honor given to him for what he did that day - and Speed replied {he} "didn't give two hoots" about the medal but when he found out he'd get more money in his pension payment he said that {he} "willing to have the medal forced on me." (last story in my source.) He never received the MOH.
https://mccw.wordpress.com/tag/chickamauga/

 

[Schwallanscher]

regular:

1. jerome anthony watrous
2. mule train charge

bonus:

this will need some time as i will have to figure out what the question is all about first.​

 

[Stony]

1. Jerome Anthony Watrous
2. Mule Train Charge
source-http://unionreenactor.com/Gburg assets/MuleTrainHerdegen.pdf

bonus-
1. Private Sidney A Speed
2. Private Sidney A. Speed, seeing the fuse of the cannonball still burning, picked it up from among my cannoneers and threw it over the house nearby before it burst.
3. Speed was not very fond of the idea, stating he "didn't give two hoots" about the medal. After it was explained to Sidney that he would be entitled to more money in his soldier's pension, he had a change of heart. He said he was, "willing to have the medal forced on me."
source-https://mccw.wordpress.com/tag/chickamauga/

 

[FarawayFriend]

You are Jerome Anthony Watrous
Your charge was named the Mule Train Charge

Source 1: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/61127870/jerome-anthony-watrous
Source 2: https://justdohistory.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/iron-men-at-gettysburg/

 

[JOHN42768]

Bonus: Question credit

 

[Schwallanscher]

bonus:

1. sidney allen speed
2. picked up that live shell and disposed of it savely by throwing it over a cabin

3. More that Fifty years had passed when Lt. Joseph A. Scott, of the 18th Battery and Lilly's grandson tried to obtain the Medal of Honor for Sidney. Speed was not very fond of the idea, stating he "didn't give two hoots" about the medal. After it was explained to Sidney that he would be entitled to more money in his soldier's pension, he had a chan[g]e of heart. He said he was, "willing to have the medal forced on me." Unfortunately Sidney never recieved the medal he deserved for his unselfish action at Chickamauga.

if i hadn't seen the name eli lilly on my neighbours insulin pen i would never have understood this question (turned out the eli lilly from that pen and the one mentioned are the same dude)

my answer to #3 is a wild guess as i can't find any comment in the question and if ihandle it as a quote i get nowhere

 

[Jimklag]

1st question: Jerome Anthony Watrous conducted the "Mule Train" charge.

Bonus: Sidney Speed; threw a live shell over a cabin, saving many lives; what comment?

Stubbornness? Comment? Maybe this:

Sidney would continue to serve until the war's end, he would obtain the rank of corporal in January, 1864. He returned to Crawfordsville where he took up his father's trade as a stone mason. More that Fifty years had passed when Lt. Joseph A. Scott, of the 18th Battery and Lilly's grandson tried to obtain the Medal of Honor for Sidney. Speed was not very fond of the idea, stating he "didn't give two hoots" about the medal. After it was explained to Sidney that he would be entitled to more money in his soldier's pension, he had a change of heart. He said he was, "willing to have the medal forced on me."

 

[WJC]

I was born in Conklin NY in 1840. During my life, I was an author, newspaper writer, politician, and soldier. I was at Gettysburg as part of the 6th Wisconsin regiment and led a not so well known charge on July 1st. Hancock himself named the charge by saying "Good. But it is the first xxxx xxxxx charge I ever knew anything about". My charge started near the Lutheran Theological Seminary despite being ordered by a major to stop the charge. I would not disobey General Wadswoth's original order. I later became an adjutant for the famous Iron Brigade who I assisted (plus others) in my charge. I died in 1922.

Who am I?
What is the name of my charge?

credit: @Wallyfish

Jerome A. Watrous (1840-1922), who led the "Mule Train Charge".

Bonus:

Later half of Sept.1863, I performed a heroic feat that saved myself and Lilly comrades in arms. A live hissing cannonball hit close by and ricocheted right at us.
1) Who am I?
2) What was the feat?
3) What was the post war reason for his stubborness and his comment?

credit: @JOHN42768

Sidney A. Speed (1846-1923), Private, 18th Indiana Artillery (Lilly's Battery).
On the morning of September 18, 1863 during the Battle of Chickamauga, while covering the approaches to Alexander's Bridge, the Battery came under fire. Speed picked up a live, unexploded projectile and threw it where it exploded harmlessly, saving himself and his gun crew.
Speed was praised in Lilly's after action report. Following the war he returned to Indiana becoming a Stonemason. Years later, his comrades and grandson urged him to apply for the Medal of Honor. Although his first response was no, he "didn't give two hoots" about the medal, he eventually agreed, "willing to have the medal forced on me".
He has never yet been awarded the Medal of Honor he most certainly deserved. However, he was rewarded in a way that probably meant more to him than any medal: the 18th Indiana Monument at Chickamauga was designed and sculpted by Sidney Speed.
<Scott Busenbark, "Sidney Speed, Hero at Chickamauga". Montgomery County Indiana Civil War History.
https://mccw.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/sidney-speed-hero-at-chickamauga/>

 

[Caesar's Ghost]

Jerome Anthony Watrous


Edit - No answer given to the second part of the main question or to the bonus question.

hoosier

 

[JOHN42768]

Main: Jerome Anthony Watrous
Mule Train Charge
source: http://unionreenactor.com/Gburg assets/MuleTrainHerdegen.pdf

 

[FarawayFriend]

Bonus:

1) You are Sidney Speed

2) Your feat was that you lifted an incoming shell with the fuse still burning and heaved it over Alexander's cabin, where it exploded but did not harm your comrades from Lilly's Battery, the 18th Indiana.
"Campbell reported, "We all knew, from the sound of it, that it would strike some place close by." It did strike close by, the shell bounced in front of the number two gun, then hit the corner of the Alexander cabin, where it ricocheted back toward the guns, landing near some of Lilly's huddled gunners. Sidney could see the danger to his comrads, calmly he picked up the shell, while the fuse was still burning and "heaved it over" the Alexander cabin where the shell would explode"

3) The reason for his post-war stubbornness was that his grandson wanted to recommended him for the Medal of Honor. Speed was not fond of the idea of getting the Medal of Honor.
Unfortunately I cannot open a journal article that expands on that and probably gives the reason why he was not fond of the idea. But access to that journal is denied to Europeans. So I can only answer that in 1916 his grandson recommended him, but Speed stubbornly refused the Medal of Honor at first , commenting that he "didn't give two hoots" about it and only consented that the Medal would be "forced on him" when he heard that this would lead to an increase of his pension.
I must hope this answer meets the requirements of the question. Seems I cannot do more.
"More that Fifty years had passed when Lt. Joseph A. Scott, of the 18th Battery and Lilly's grandson tried to obtain the Medal of Honor for Sidney. Speed was not very fond of the idea, stating he "didn't give two hoots" about the medal. After it was explained to Sidney that he would be entitled to more money in his soldier's pension, he had a change of heart. He said he was, "willing to have the medal forced on me." Unfortunately Sidney never received the medal he deserved for his unselfish action at Chickamauga."

https://mccw.wordpress.com/category/18th-indiana-battery-lillys/

 

[luinrina]

Regular question:
You are Jerome Anthony "Jack" Watrous (September 6, 1840 – June 5, 1922).
You led the Mule Train Charge on Day 1.

Sources: http://unionreenactor.com/Gburg assets/MuleTrainHerdegen.pdf, Wikipedia

 

[FarawayFriend]

Addendum to the Bonus question:

I have asked one of our friends here to open that journal article for me. Seems Speed did not want the Medal of Honor because he did not want to boast his feat.

"In 1916, Speed was recommended to an Indianapolis congressman for the medal of honor, but chose not to accept.
Speed might not have wanted to tout his own accomplishments, but he did acknowledge the work of his parents, John and Margaret Speed, as conductors on the Underground Railroad. "
http://www.journalreview.com/news/local/article_d37b4988-5db7-11e6-b404-7780b20e263f.html