Folding Camp Chairs

If you fellows have photographs of how a camp ought to look like, I think it would be more helpful to those who are trying to do it right.

Also, add links to the suppliers.

In this way I believe you'll be extremely helpful.

M. E. Wolf
 
LOL I know that but was just asking. Also the guy in the t shirt and the girl sitting in the chair not dressed. Civilians are usually not as criticised as "re-enacting" groups. Then again do they really know or have been told they are not correct?

By civilian do you mean spectator? I portray a civilian and can be considered a "reenactor"


Not sure the score about what they know and don't know but perhaps you can enlighten them. I got the pic off your unit's website. http://7thtenncav.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=86792889
 
By civilian do you mean spectator? I portray a civilian and can be considered a "reenactor"


Not sure the score about what they know and don't know but perhaps you can enlighten them. I got the pic off your unit's website. http://7thtenncav.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=86792889

I have no control over who takes what photos and posts them Joey. Most times at events I do not even have time to walk around
to even notice what is going on. My concern is my men and our camp and the public that visit our camp. Perhaps you can come to OH and take the time as a civy to teach the civilians.
 
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Compare and contrast:
Civil War "camp life", cooking rations and the actual infantry soldier's folding boy scout camp chair.
Images courtesy of National Park Service (Hardtack & Coffee-public domain).
 
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"Sutler" selling newspaper and sundries, Virginia 1863 (image Library of Congress)

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Soldiers on bivouac, Maryland 1862
 
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Right, but there is no good reason for it. It is mainly just ignorance.

Don't misunderstand. I wasn't saying that because this scene is commonplace, doesn't necessarily make it right. It was just acknowledging an observation.

I am not, what is referred to as an "authentic campaigner" by any means. But, even so, there are a few things, that even for me, cross the line of what should be acceptable, especially for those who have a couple of reenactments under their belts and should know better. Most of this laxness is attributal to the veterans who permit it to occur without diplomatically pointing it out to the "fresh fish." Just last week, I was at a reenactment, where they turned the battle into essentially a sporting event/theatrical presentation---play by play announcing, directing pep rally type cheers, and annoying background music.

Frankly, I was embarrassed. I believe it sent the wrong message to the spectators, and more importantly, contributed little to honoring the brave men who fought and sacrificed for a cause they believed in. It trivialized the very reason we were there, and therefore, did a disservice to all parties concerned.

But, I fear that some of us, in our zeal to be 100%, if that is even practically possible, may be taking an unintended self-defeating approach to reenacting. As I was reading the long lists of farberism, I began to think of the 613 ordiances in the Mosaic Law, which no man could perfectly keep, which is why a blood atonement was required for the remission of sins. I fear that in our well-intnetioned zeal to "get it right", which in and of itself is a good thing, we may be in danger of "destroying the town in order to save it."

Knowledge and judgment are not necessarily the same things. When it comes to pure knowledge of the techncial aspects of the Civil War, the wealth of information that many of you exhibit is quite impressive to say the least. I have benefited much by it. But, at times, I question the judgment, or application of such knowledge, when I see it used to intimidate, though unintended, rather than to patiently educate, along with a certain amount of moderation.

Of course, what is deemed moderate to some, amd be too legalistic or too liberal to others. That will differ from unit to unit and is an important factor in determing whether a prospective recruit is a good fit or not. In that regard, the burden of adaptation is upon the individual, and not the other way around. But, sometimes I get the impression that these hardcore reenactors are more concerned with impressing each other rather than making a prospective recruit feel welcome and educating the public. That is simply my opinion based upon observation, but do not presume it to be a fact.

I do agree with many of your points, and many of things that "drive you up the wall" have the same effect on me. But, I believe that if we are too legalistic in our approach to this endeavor, the reenactment community as a whole will find itslelf part of a continuing shrinking number of participants---a small, introverted, and exclusive club of elitists---a painful and slow death to an honorable hobby.
 
This is where forums such as this, and CWReenactors.com come into play....Fresh fish should be encouraged to get on line, and check the forums, as well as being directed to thier local library or bookstore, the LOC photo collection, and the myriad of resources on material culture that are out there. Farbisms are actually preventable. The number one thing that affects alot of it is just plain laziness. People dont want to research or go with the flow. Understandable, but just saying that the material is available
 
This is where forums such as this, and CWReenactors.com come into play....Fresh fish should be encouraged to get on line, and check the forums, as well as being directed to thier local library or bookstore, the LOC photo collection, and the myriad of resources on material culture that are out there. Farbisms are actually preventable. The number one thing that affects alot of it is just plain laziness. People dont want to research or go with the flow. Understandable, but just saying that the material is available

I would tend to agree to go check out their local library and other resources. This forum to many fresh fish would be a turn off and here is why. When asking questions and looking for answers, I have seen many people berated and belittled for just just asking. That is the possibly part of the legalistic portion, not only here online but at reenactments, that sagebrush may be addressing. There needs to be understanding when they are truly trying to ask and get the knowledge they need to help. IF they feel they are being berated or belittled just for asking for help then that will turn them off all together.

On the other hand, there are some like you are trying to address who really do not care to research or are lazy. We should at first give them the benefit of the doubt and get to know their true intentions before making a blanket statement or write them off. We were all newbies at one time and have crossed paths of people who either helped or hindered us in our search for knowledge. In that journey they have made a lasting impression on us, either good or bad.
 
Wonder if the whole unit bought them from the same vendor?

And check out the Johnny Reb in the far right of the picture with the mullet, Clarks
Wallaby shoes and blue jeans. All that's missing is the speckled enamel coffee pots.
Using the battle flag for a seat cushion...that might get you hung up by your thumbs.

I was thinking the haybale so close to the fire until I saw the CBF used as a cushion. Paid no attention to the Reb in his duster. Somebody's been busy making chairs.........
 
I would tend to agree to go check out their local library and other resources. This forum to many fresh fish would be a turn off and here is why. When asking questions and looking for answers, I have seen many people berated and belittled for just just asking. That is the possibly part of the legalistic portion, not only here online but at reenactments, that sagebrush may be addressing. There needs to be understanding when they are truly trying to ask and get the knowledge they need to help. IF they feel they are being berated or belittled just for asking for help then that will turn them off all together.

On the other hand, there are some like you are trying to address who really do not care to research or are lazy. We should at first give them the benefit of the doubt and get to know their true intentions before making a blanket statement or write them off. We were all newbies at one time and have crossed paths of people who either helped or hindered us in our search for knowledge. In that journey they have made a lasting impression on us, either good or bad.

As a "Fresh fish" reading this thread does put me off a bit. I am going to my first reenactment and it's the biggest. Gettysburg. I will be traveling over 2700 miles just to get there. I am doing my research and have experienced friends who are helping me but I am on a limited budget being retired and on a fixed income. I also have arthritis and sitting on the ground for extended periods is out of the question. I'm going as the cook. I can't march because of the arthritis. As for chairs just a little research and I found a scissor chair that looks similar to the "Boy Scout" model. as for enlisted men sitting in chairs I also found many pictures of them sitting in whatever chair they could find. If there was a chair around seems there was some soldiers butt planted in it.

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As a "Fresh fish" reading this thread does put me off a bit. I am going to my first reenactment and it's the biggest. Gettysburg. I will be traveling over 2700 miles just to get there.

I wouldn't worry about it. Especially if it's the GAC Gettysburg, but really either one, nothing in this thread really applies. The vast majority of the camps won't be set up to resemble the way soldiers were camping before Gettysburg, and most won't really care about the level of accuracy discussed in this thread. You'll see the two-piece slat chairs galore, and camps that look like period winter quarters, and camps that look like quasi-modern campsites.

There are events where both civilians and military are expected to live more closely to the way they would have, in the period situation being portrayed, and the historical information is useful for participants at those events, but the Gettysburgs aren't that type.
 
As a "Fresh fish" reading this thread does put me off a bit. I am going to my first reenactment and it's the biggest. Gettysburg. I will be traveling over 2700 miles just to get there. I am doing my research and have experienced friends who are helping me but I am on a limited budget being retired and on a fixed income. I also have arthritis and sitting on the ground for extended periods is out of the question. I'm going as the cook. I can't march because of the arthritis. As for chairs just a little research and I found a scissor chair that looks similar to the "Boy Scout" model. as for enlisted men sitting in chairs I also found many pictures of them sitting in whatever chair they could find. If there was a chair around seems there was some soldiers butt planted in it.
Just go and enjoy the event.. A mega event is a experience...
 
A period wooden bucket works well, and can be had at most garden supply stores. Just add a rope handle. I constructed several Canister cases for our artillery unit, all with open bottoms, that are great for carrying gear, and can be upended to cover that FARBY cooler a pal always brings, as well as planting one's oversized keister upon. Always great to have something for camp visitors (the public) to sit on if they want to.
But as most of you have pointed out, too many things that are incorrect have become 'acceptable' or considered the norm. Not just camp chairs either. I for one am tired of seeing everyone showing up with a huge Dutch Oven.
 

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