Discovered some new ancestors

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Pulling things together in the family tree, and found these two gentlemen:
William Oakley- Enlisted in Company A, 2nd Battn Cavalry Regiment Kentucky on 1 Mar 1863.
James Oakley- Enlisted in Company E, Kentucky 35th Infantry Regiment on 02 Oct 1863.Mustered out on 29 Dec 1864 at Louisville, KY.

There's some Tennessee kin who wore gray as well, but their records are either on Fold3 or the identification needs to be firmed up...

Meanwhile, the other side of the family were Pennsylvania 35th Inf Rgt and other assorted Union outfits. So my maternal grandparents and paternal grandparents' families were actively engaged in doing each other in- a habit they continued in the post-war period, where the maternal line took up train/bank robbery (resulting in an Uncle Jesse and an Uncle Frank, for some reason...) while the paternal line became marshals and Texas Rangers. No wonder I'm confused!
 
Pulling things together in the family tree, and found these two gentlemen:
William Oakley- Enlisted in Company A, 2nd Battn Cavalry Regiment Kentucky on 1 Mar 1863.
James Oakley- Enlisted in Company E, Kentucky 35th Infantry Regiment on 02 Oct 1863.Mustered out on 29 Dec 1864 at Louisville, KY.

There's some Tennessee kin who wore gray as well, but their records are either on Fold3 or the identification needs to be firmed up...

Meanwhile, the other side of the family were Pennsylvania 35th Inf Rgt and other assorted Union outfits. So my maternal grandparents and paternal grandparents' families were actively engaged in doing each other in- a habit they continued in the post-war period, where the maternal line took up train/bank robbery (resulting in an Uncle Jesse and an Uncle Frank, for some reason...) while the paternal line became marshals and Texas Rangers. No wonder I'm confused!

We should start a club for those of us with confused ancestor identities! (There are a bunch of us! Obviously Reconstruction worked well.....)
 
So my maternal grandparents and paternal grandparents' families were actively engaged in doing each other in- a habit they continued in the post-war period,

:bounce: You and I are definitely related!
 
Pulling things together in the family tree, and found these two gentlemen:
William Oakley- Enlisted in Company A, 2nd Battn Cavalry Regiment Kentucky on 1 Mar 1863.
James Oakley- Enlisted in Company E, Kentucky 35th Infantry Regiment on 02 Oct 1863.Mustered out on 29 Dec 1864 at Louisville, KY.

There's some Tennessee kin who wore gray as well, but their records are either on Fold3 or the identification needs to be firmed up...

Meanwhile, the other side of the family were Pennsylvania 35th Inf Rgt and other assorted Union outfits. So my maternal grandparents and paternal grandparents' families were actively engaged in doing each other in- a habit they continued in the post-war period, where the maternal line took up train/bank robbery (resulting in an Uncle Jesse and an Uncle Frank, for some reason...) while the paternal line became marshals and Texas Rangers. No wonder I'm confused!

Thirty-fifth Infantry (mounted)
KENTUCKY
(1-YEAR)
Thirty-fifth Infantry (mounted). -- Col., Edmund A. Starling;
Lieut.Col., Edward R. Weir, Jr.; Maj., Frank H. Bristow.

This regiment was organized on Sept. 26, 1863, at Owensboro,
Ky., under Col. Starling, and was mustered into the U. S.
service on Oct. 2, 1863, by Capt. Knight. During the month of
Aug., 1864, after a long and tedious march with other troops
and various skirmishes, it succeeded in driving the
Confederate Gen. Adam Johnson out of Kentucky into Tennessee
by way of Cadiz.

From Cadiz it returned via Hopkinsville to Lexington and on
Sept. 15 moved in Gen. Burbridge's command in the first
expedition on Saltville, Va. It returned to Lexington on Nov.
5 and from there was ordered to Louisville, where it was
mustered out Dec. 29, 1864.

It participated in the battle of Saltville, Va., and in
numerous skirmishes with guerrillas in various portions of
Kentucky. On May 7, 1864 Cant. Baker, commanding a detachment
of the regiment, had a fight in Meade County, in which he
routed a Confederate band under Capt. Hinkle, who was killed.
In the first expedition to Saltville the regiment lost 21 men.

Source: The Union Army, vol. 4, p. 340

*****************************************************************************

MAY 5, 1864.--Scout in Meade and Breckinridge Counties, Ky.

Reports of Capt. Hendrick D. Baker, Thirty-fifth Kentucky Infantry.

HDQRS. DETACH. COMPANY B, THIRTY-FIFTH KENTUCKY,
Meadville, Ky., May 7, 1864.
GEN.: My advance guard encountered a small squad of Capt.
Hinkle's recruits on Beaver Creek, between this point and Hardinsburg,
on the 5th instant. Hinkle made a strong resistance, but after firing
twelve shots he and his friend Cunning were wounded, Cunning making
his escape, but could be traced by the blood. Hinkle died in a few
hours. Hinkle was an escaped prisoner from Camp Douglas, and has
been engaged for six weeks recruiting a company for the C. S.
Army. I have also captured two others, G. A. Hardesty and J. H.
Kennady, whom I forward to Louisville this morning. Forage is so very
scarce in this vicinity that I am compelled to send Sergeant Parris and
twenty-five of my men, via Elizabethtown, with orders to report to
Lieut. Hayslip at Cave City. I will not be in for four or five days,
as I am of the opinion I can capture the remainder of Hinkle's recruits.

I have the honor to be, sir, very respectfully, your obedient servant,

H. D. BAKER,
Capt., Cmdg. Detachment.

P. S.--Sergeant Kincade, of my company, was slightly wounded in leg
and hip.
H. D. B.

Brig. Gen. H. EWING,
Cmdg. Second Division, District of Kentucky.

-----

HDQRS. COMPANY B, THIRTY-FIFTH KENTUCKY VOLS., Cave
City, Ky., May 13, 1864.
GEN.: In accordance with Special Orders, No. 14, from your
headquarters, I have the honor to report the success of my scouting
expedition in the counties north of Green River.

On the 4th [5th] instant the advance guard of small squad of my
company came in collision with two guerrillas at Jacob Neff's house,
near Sinking Creek bridge, Breckinridge County, Ky., killing Capt.
J. B. Hinkle, and wounding Cunning, the latter making his escape.
Sergt. A. P. Kincade, of my company, received a flesh wound in the right
leg and hip. I also captured two guerrillas the same days at Big Spring,
Ky., viz, Hardesty and J. H. Kennady. Lieut. Hardesty and Kennady
had stopped to rest at William Turpin's, half a mile from Neff's, on the
road leading from Hardinsburg to Big Spring, and after hearing the
firing between my scout and Hinkle, came to Big Spring, with the
intention of making their escape. My opinion is that Neff and Turpin
were harboring them. I also chased the guerrillas Birch, Reed, and
Crutcher from Garnettsville to West Point, where they crossed Salt
River and went in the direction of Louisville. The aforesaid Reed Birch,
and Crutcher are notorious horse-thieves, and Birch was arrested a few
weeks ago by the civil authority for stealing horses, and placed under
guard at West Point, where Charles Brown, West Point, where Charles
Brown, West Carleton, and William Robinson (who are notorious
rebels), who reside at that place, went with pistols in hand and
demanded the guard to release Birch; the guard being overpowered was
compelled to submit. The loyal men of that country have had many
horses, pistols, guns, &c., taken from them by those guerrillas, and
some of them entirely robbed of money, &c. There are fifteen or twenty
guerrillas still lurking through the counties of Meade and
Breckinridge, and it is very clear that the rebel sympathizers are
harboring them and keeping them concealed.

I have the honor to be, sir, very respectfully, your obedient servant,

H. D. BAKER,
Capt. Company B, Thirty-fifth Kentucky Volunteers.

Brig.-Gen. EWING,
Cmdg. Second Div., Dist. of Kentucky, Munfordville, Ky.


Source: Official Records
PAGE 11-77 KY., SW. VA., TENN., MISS., ALA., AND N. GA. [CHAP. LI.
[Series I. Vol. 39. Part I, Reports. Serial No. 77.]

************************************************************************************

JULY 13-15, 1864.--Scout from Munfordville to Big Spring, Ky.
Report of Capt. Hendrick D. Baker, Thirty-fifth Kentucky Infantry.

HDQRS. DETACH. THIRTY-FIFTH KENTUCKY VOLUNTEERS,
Big Spring, Ky., July 21, 1864.
LIEUT.: I have the honor to make the following report of the
scout sent out under my charge on the 13th instant:
I arrived at this place on the 13th instant and found the country full of
guerrillas, who were committing all kinds of outrages on the loyal
citizens of this neighborhood. Capt. Duposter has recruited thirty of
forty men in this county, and has some men in his command who are
deserters from the U. S. Army. I have succeeded in capturing 7
guerrillas, 1 of whom is too badly wounded to move. There have also
been 2 or 3 killed, and 11 horses and equipments captured. One of the
prisoners came and surrendered, and has reported everything he knew
on his friends. He says Capt. Duposter is acting under orders from
Gen. Morgan, and that he receives communications from him almost
daily. He received a letter from Morgan the other day and read it to his
command, which was as follows: There will soon be re-enforcements
sent him, and to hold possession of this part of the State at all hazards.
He also has the assurance that there are 200 guerrillas in the vicinity of
Haynesville and 400 at Owensborough. Capt. Duposter has disbanded
his men, with orders for them to hide in the brush until his
re-enforcements come; but my opinion is that his re-enforcements will
be a long time coming, and that his command will be captured when
they meet again, as I am posted as to the place and time of their
meeting. As I have been very busy I have had not time to arrest rebel
citizens, though there are a number of them whom I will arrest. This
whole country is engaged in harboring and recruiting guerrillas. I send
Lieut. Phelps in charge of the prisoners and unserviceable horses to
camp. I am confident I can clear this county of guerrillas in one more
week. Please excuse this badly written letter, as I have no conveniences
for writing.

Very respectfully, your obedient servant,

H. D. BAKER,
Capt., Cmdg. Detachment.

Lieut. E. B. HARLAN,
Actg. Asst. Adjt. Gen., Second Div., District of Kentucky.


Source: Official Records
PAGE 358-77 KY., SW. VA., TENN., MISS., ALA., AND N.
 
Here's what I ended up with:
Marcellus Mosher 2Lt Co J 111th NY Inf. Enlisted in Company I, New York 111th Infantry Regiment on 20 Aug 1862.Promoted to Full Sergeant.Promoted to Full Private.Promoted to Full Corporal on 23 Dec 1863.Promoted to Full 2nd Lieutenant on 02 Apr 1865.Mustered out on 04 Jun 1865 at Alexandria, VA. (seems he went up and down the ranks a bit).

George Allen Mosher Enlisted in Company Batty F, New York 3rd LA Batty F Light Artillery Battery on 22 May 1861.Mustered out on 02 Jun 1863 at Auburn, NY.

William Oakley 2 Battalion (Capt. Dortch's) Kentucky Cavalry Enlisted in Company A, Kentucky 2nd Cavalry Battalion on 01 Mar 1863.

James Oakley Enlisted in Company E, Kentucky 35th Infantry Regiment on 02 Oct 1863.Mustered out on 29 Dec 1864 at Louisville, KY. Enlisted as a Private on 3 September 1863. (So these last two were literally brother against brother).

Isaac A Royer Enlisted in Company G, Illinois 92nd Infantry Regiment on 08 Feb 1864. Mustered out on 04 Jun 1865. Transferred to Company I, Illinois 65th Infantry Regiment on 04 Jun 1865.Mustered out on 13 Jul 1865.

Lewis Royer Enlisted in Company F, Pennsylvania 21st Infantry Regiment on 15 Sep 1862. Mustered out on 30 Sep 1862 at Harrisburg, PA.

Jesse Capshaw Enlisted as a Private. Enlisted in Company C, 23rd Infantry Regiment Tennessee. Co H Nineteenth Arkansas (Dawson's) Infantry

James David Capshaw Enlisted as a Private. Enlisted in Company C, 2nd Infantry Regiment Arkansas.

Daniel W Stauffer E Co. 13th Ind Inf. Enlisted in Company E, Indiana 13th Infantry Regiment on 18 Oct 1864.Mustered out on 05 Sep 1865 at Goldsboro, NC.

William H Stauffer H Co. 171st Penn Inf . Enlisted as a Corporal on 1 November 1862 at the age of 36 in Company H, 171st Infantry Regiment Pennsylvania on 1 Nov 1862. Promoted to Full Sergeant on 2 Nov 1862. Mustered Out Company H, 171st Infantry Regiment Pennsylvania on 8 Aug 1863 at Harrisburg, PA.

John Mosher Enlisted in Company I, New York 185th Infantry Regiment on 19 Sep 1864. Wounded in Arm 2 Apr 1865 (?- record clearly reads 1864, for muster AND wound). Mustered out on 30 May 1865.

Lem C Barton Enlisted as a Private Robertson's Five-Shooters Infantry Mar 3 1861 in Oenaville, Bell County TX. Mar 11 1862 enlisted at Belknap as a Private in Company of Rangers, Stephens Co TST. Discharged Jan 31 1863 end of service. (Or: Company I, Frontier Regt.). Enrolled as 4th Sgt, Co. E, Parker Cty, Frontier Dist, TST, March 19 1864.
Bailey Anderson Barton Co H Ganoes Brigade Gurley's Regt. TX Thirtieth Cavalry (Gurley's Regiment, First Partisans). Enlisted in Company E, Texas 30th Cavalry Regiment.

Thomas Jefferson Barton Enlisted as a Private in B Co Third TX Cavalry (South Kansas-Texas Mounted Volunteers)on 13 Jun 1861. Wounded 10 Aug 1861 at Battle of Wilson's Creek.

James Maddison Matt Barton Captain Mexican War, Captain Cavalry Co, MF Locke's Rgt. 10th Regiment, Texas Cavalry (Locke's), Co. F&S- LTC.

Benjamin K Barton Enlisted as a Private in the Company for LD (Local defense?) 2nd Frontier District 28th BDE, 9 Nov 1863.

I'm curious about the TX cavalry/Rangers- this seems more like a "home guard" to protect the homesteads, rather than to fight for CSA independence?
 
The original Texas Rangers were pretty much the law in Texas-these gentlemen were "Bad Hombres".

Also, if you want a tough research project; try tracking down a "Galvanized Yankees's" records.
 
Ancestry also tends to be pretty incomplete, although I love the ' American CW Soldier' option, tells you age of soldier at time of enlistment. PA has the Civil War soldier's index card listings, on their official website- pretty amazing, although also not as complete as WE would like. :) Must have been a mess for some folks keeping track all those years ago. New York has the same thing, amazing, with the added benefit of being able to 'click-n-buy' the record you find. That gets risky because if there's a few men of the same name, how the heck do you know which is the correct Joe Jahoosawitz?

I find Fold 3 personally kind of a pain in the neck to navigate, does anyone else? It's a lot of clicks to get where you want, to exclude and refine searches and to get back to where you need to be.

Family Search has improved record searches, if you haven't tried that for awhile. It was imcomprehensible for a LONG time, now some genius has improved things hugely.

Yes, gosh, congrats on the finds! It's like Christmas getting these things together, isn't it? Hmm. CCOW. Confused Children Of the War, you guys could call it Holy CCow, elect officers.
 
Great finds. It is always so rewarding when you find information on ancestors. It is a never ending quest for me.

I have several books on genealogy. One of my latest is "Genealogy Online for Dummies". Thought might as well get that one too. It has some good advice.
 
Lem C Barton Enlisted as a Private Robertson's Five-Shooters Infantry Mar 3 1861 in Oenaville, Bell County TX. Mar 11 1862 enlisted at Belknap as a Private in Company of Rangers, Stephens Co TST. Discharged Jan 31 1863 end of service. (Or: Company I, Frontier Regt.). Enrolled as 4th Sgt, Co. E, Parker Cty, Frontier Dist, TST, March 19 1864.
Bailey Anderson Barton Co H Ganoes Brigade Gurley's Regt. TX Thirtieth Cavalry (Gurley's Regiment, First Partisans). Enlisted in Company E, Texas 30th Cavalry Regiment.

Thomas Jefferson Barton Enlisted as a Private in B Co Third TX Cavalry (South Kansas-Texas Mounted Volunteers)on 13 Jun 1861. Wounded 10 Aug 1861 at Battle of Wilson's Creek.

James Maddison Matt Barton Captain Mexican War, Captain Cavalry Co, MF Locke's Rgt. 10th Regiment, Texas Cavalry (Locke's), Co. F&S- LTC.

Benjamin K Barton Enlisted as a Private in the Company for LD (Local defense?) 2nd Frontier District 28th BDE, 9 Nov 1863.

I'm curious about the TX cavalry/Rangers- this seems more like a "home guard" to protect the homesteads, rather than to fight for CSA independence?

The Frontier Regiment was indeed meant to protect the frontier. When you consider Comanche and Kiowa (mostly) depredations pushed the frontier back east 100+ miles during the war, you understand the need for units kept in that area. The frontier regiment tends to be more regular-type units, which were reinforced and combined with local militia units in times of extreme urgency. This was, unfortunately, not always successful, as in the Dove Creek Fight, where the militia and regular troops literally were at each others' throats. My great-grandfather remembered the head of the regular troops, Fossett, as "an idiot." Meh.
He was one of two men sent out to Goodnight's ranch to find food--he never forgot the barefoot, bleeding men walking toward him in the snow, carrying litters of wounded.

These reference might be useful in understanding their organization and function:

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/exhibits/indian/statehood/page4.html

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/qjf01

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/qkf02

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/btd01
 
The Frontier Regiment was indeed meant to protect the frontier. When you consider Comanche and Kiowa (mostly) depredations pushed the frontier back east 100+ miles during the war, you understand the need for units kept in that area. The frontier regiment tends to be more regular-type units, which were reinforced and combined with local militia units in times of extreme urgency. This was, unfortunately, not always successful, as in the Dove Creek Fight, where the militia and regular troops literally were at each others' throats. My great-grandfather remembered the head of the regular troops, Fossett, as "an idiot." Meh.
He was one of two men sent out to Goodnight's ranch to find food--he never forgot the barefoot, bleeding men walking toward him in the snow, carrying litters of wounded.

These reference might be useful in understanding their organization and function:

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/exhibits/indian/statehood/page4.html

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/qjf01

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/qkf02

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/btd01
Thanks Nathan, I figured if anyone would know it would be you...so heads-up, I'll prob be pestering you in a bit for more background- seems TX figures prominantly in my family history!
 

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