Need help on identification

[Kevin Kauffman]

Hello everyone, I'm new here and thanks for the add! I'm not sure what I have here. I'd like some friendly advice to know what I bought at a sale. They are rough. I'm hoping I have this in the right spot.

 

[johan_steele]

From what I can see you have an M1855 rifle musket, a percussion conversion of a flintlock M1816 or earlier and a percussion conversion of a flintlock pistol.

I'm working off my phone so I may well be off as small pics and my eyes don't mix all that well.

 

[Kevin Kauffman]

From what I can see you have an M1855 rifle musket, a percussion conversion of a flintlock M1816 or earlier and a percussion conversion of a flintlock pistol.

I'm working off my phone so I may well be off as small pics and my eyes don't mix all that well.

Thanks for the reply I would like to see what it looked like originally.

 

[johan_steele]

Thanks for the reply I would like to see what it looked like originally.

Will do when I get home.

 

[mofederal]

I recognized the M1855, I had just never seen one where the filled in the Maynard Tape Primer door and recess. Thanks for posting @Kevin Kauffman, you have some interesting weapons there.

 

[Kevin Kauffman]

I recognized the M1855, I had just never seen one where the filled in the Maynard Tape Primer door and recess. Thanks for posting @Kevin Kauffman, you have some interesting weapons there.

I'm no professional but it is filled with lead of all things. It comes right out. I have no idea.

 

[Jobe Holiday]

The M-1855 lock was filled with lead when it was in civilian hands, most likely to just make it look better. The entire arm has been turned into a post-war era farm use shotgun. The pistol, however, is much more interesting because it is a US Model 1805 Harper's Ferry pistol and quite rare in any condition. It should have a serial number on the left side of the barrel, and they were issued in matching numbered pairs. You have a decent parts value in the M-1855 Maynard Tape, but the real gem is the 1807 dated pistol!
J.

 

[JOHN42768]

Welcome, enjoy

 

[johan_steele]

Here are a couple pictures of the M1855 w/ a close up of the lock though it is on a Type 1 Rifle instead of the type 2 Rifle musket which you have pictured. The second picture is an M1855 Type 1 (long range rear site & sans patchbox) w/ an M1864.

 

[Kevin Kauffman]

Here are a couple pictures of the M1855 w/ a close up of the lock though it is on a Type 1 Rifle instead of the type 2 Rifle musket which you have pictured. The second picture is an M1855 Type 1 (long range rear site & sans patchbox) w/ an M1864.
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Thanks so much I know more now than I did before. I like yours
a little better

 

[Kevin Kauffman]

The M-1855 lock was filled with lead when it was in civilian hands, most likely to just make it look better. The entire arm has been turned into a post-war era farm use shotgun. The pistol, however, is much more interesting because it is a US Model 1805 Harper's Ferry pistol and quite rare in any condition. It should have a serial number on the left side of the barrel, and they were issued in matching numbered pairs. You have a decent parts value in the M-1855 Maynard Tape, but the real gem is the 1807 dated pistol!
J.

The M-1855 lock was filled with lead when it was in civilian hands, most likely to just make it look better. The entire arm has been turned into a post-war era farm use shotgun. The pistol, however, is much more interesting because it is a US Model 1805 Harper's Ferry pistol and quite rare in any condition. It should have a serial number on the left side of the barrel, and they were issued in matching numbered pairs. You have a decent parts value in the M-1855 Maynard Tape, but the real gem is the 1807 dated pistol!
J.

 

[Kevin Kauffman]

Jobe, Thanks for the important info. You are right it has 725 on the side.

 

[UCVRelics]

Interesting musket, Thanks for sharing.