Impressions Texas units

[AUG]

Aug, quick question...didn't AoT, like Granbury's, wear a lot of buttenut? I'm asking because I've got a complete set of butternuts, and was thinking of putting a 15th Texas Cavalry (my 2nd great uncle) impression. Not of him, but the unit.

Well I haven't done all that much research on AoT uniforms or the 15th Texas Cav. in particular, but I would just go with a Columbus Depot jacket (typically of gray jean cloth, though I think some surviving examples were a butternut color). Not all too sure about trousers, but maybe any gray or butternut trousers, or civilians trousers, would do. However no Richmond Depot stuff, as none was issued to AoT troops as far as I'm concerned. And no bummers or kepis, only slouch hats.

 

[yankee hoorah]

Here are a few of my unit depicting the Navarro Rifles of the 4th Texas at Antietam.



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Were you near Grecco and his unit during Maryland my Maryland?

 

[yankee hoorah]

I was thinking about the same thing. For some reason I have in my brain housing group that butternut was issued by Columbus Depot. Slouch hats makes sense.

Butternut is acutually a vegetable dyed cloth. Starts as a grey and turns brown with time. Mainstream sutlers look at the originals and use that already faded color... For fabrics I would suggest Jean wool over grey wool. Get a cheap one from Ben Tart.

 

[yankee hoorah]

TX soldier
I think the 15th TX, but dont quote me on that

 

[yankee hoorah]

"Cheap one from Ben Tart", lol, NOW that's funny!!!! More like "less expensive"! Lol

Lol its not that bad, im 13 and get stuff from them. The half machined ones are about $120 I believe... Or is that the blank....

 

[poorjack]

Ben's stuff is first rate and worth it.

Many getting into the hobby find stuff can be quite expensive. The dilemma is to decide "do I buy cheap and upgrade?" or "do I buy once cry once and get good stuff from the start?"

 

[yankee hoorah]

If I remember correctly this kid is a texan... Probably drew his uniform from the Houtson depot.

 

[Grayrock Volunteer]

If I remember correctly this kid is a texan... Probably drew his uniform from the Houtson depot.

That is supposed to be Pvt. Joseph E. Mayfield, Company H, 4th Texas Cavalry. I have always seen it attributed to Pvt. Mayfield, and if it is indeed him, the clothing he is wearing should have been drawn through Houston. However, the jacket does not adhere to Capt. Wharton's descriptions of Houston clothing, and the musket he is carrying looks to be a M1855 type 2 rifle-musket, or perhaps a Richmond M1861 (at least I see a high hump lock plate). Richmond rifles appear in a couple of Trans-Mississippi ordinance returns, so if it was indeed a Richmond rifle that doesn't mean that is could not be a Trans-Mississippi image. Also, the John Bach jacket (31st Louisiana Infantry) may in fact be a product of Houston, and it does not abide by Wharton's description for HD production either. Ready made jackets from abroad, and even domestic clothing from New Orleans were all run through the blockade in Texas, so there are other possibilities as well. Still an interesting image. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Garrett

 

[DHPatrick]

The insignia of grade appear to be black on a couple of these photos. Is that an accurate rendition? Don't know, just asking. I was thinking (that when available) the stripes were their branch color.

 

[AUG]

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TX soldier
I think the 15th TX, but dont quote me on that

That is Pvt. William M. Hogsett of Co. K, 19th Texas Infantry, part of Walker's Texas Division.

Posted here with a bit more information: http://civilwartalk.com/threads/pvt-william-m-hogsett-19th-texas-infantry.118214/

 

[Tin cup]

Many Texas units wore black stripe/piping no matter what their branch was.

Basing this on what?

Kevin Dally

 

[7th Texas Mounted Rifles]

Is a 'post-by-proxy' acceptable?

Here is an older photo of ACW artist John Paul Strain... Captain with the 7th TX Cav out of North Texas. I always thought it was cool that one of my favorite artist was the commander of my ancestors outfit.

Maybe some of you guys here have met him on the field of battle...? Haha!

 

[AndyHall]

Another thing is headgear. Environment dictates dress, and many Texans had adopted mexican-style hats to protect them from the sun and rain. You saw more wide-brimmed hats in Texas units. . . .

Or top hats, even. Private Val Giles, Fourth Texas Infantry, 1861. Note also the black uniform trim:

 

[Nathanb1]

Or top hats, even. Private Val Giles, Fourth Texas Infantry, 1861. Note also the black uniform trim:

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I think that's actually a Hardee-style hat, pinned up on one side.

 

[AndyHall]

I think that's actually a Hardee-style hat, pinned up on one side.

Giles got talked into it at a haberdasher's in Austin, so whatever it was, it wasn't official military issue. It forms the introduction to his memoir in Chapter 1, appropriately titled, "Enlistment: Where Did You Get That Hat?"

 

[Nathanb1]

Gosh...forgot that. A hybrid, then?

 

[AndyHall]

There aren't a lot of those old guys I'd really like to have known. Val Giles is one of them.