ENDED WTB: 1819 Hall Rifle parts

[Conquerordie]

You are officially my hero. TRS whisperer!

 

[grimes]

Got the stirrup from Rifle Shoppe fitted and it will work fine.


Does this part need to be hardened? It's a small thin part, so I would think it would break if further hardened.

They mention on their site that it is made from 4140 steel, but only mentioning about further hardening the cock, tumbler and lock plate.

 

[sharpsguy]

hi all, can anyone help me out with a picture of an 1831 marked hall barrel removed from the block? would like to see the threaded part> thank you. mike

 

[Grayrock Volunteer]

hi all, can anyone help me out with a picture of an 1831 marked hall barrel removed from the block? would like to see the threaded part> thank you. mike

Not sure by what you mean by the threaded part, but if you can guide me I can provide pics.

 

[sharpsguy]

hi thanks grayrock, the barrel is attached to a rectangular block [ the part the rear sight is on ,i have been told by several people that the barrel is screwed into this block. someone cut the barrel off right at the front of the block. does not seem to go all the way through so i dont want to bore it out all the way through if it only threads in half way or something like that . i thought it might be one piece. thanks again. mike

 

[grimes]

I think the barrel on the Hall is one-piece. Then the receiver 'wings' were riveted/soldered on.

If you look at the forcing cone side, there is nothing indicating the barrel is screwed in.

 

[sharpsguy]

thanks grimes, thats what lead me to believe it was only threaded in up to the cone instead of all the way through. ? those wings are riveted, not just pinned and then soldered?? thanks again. mike

 

[Grayrock Volunteer]

thanks grimes, thats what lead me to believe it was only threaded in up to the cone instead of all the way through. ? those wings are riveted, not just pinned and then soldered?? thanks again. mike

The supporters have a threaded screw that attaches them to the barrel. The screw was then brazed or forge welded in place and the heads ground flush with the sides of the supporters. Depending on how deep the slot on the screw head was you can still see it on some examples.

I believe reproductions from The Rifle Shoppe are made with a round barrel that is threaded into the square portion of the barrel, which is cast with the supporters attached.
If you are intent on restoring your Hall you could probably get a new barrel from TRS and have a good gunsmith install it. But in all honesty it is probably not worth the expenditure. I'd be interested in seeing what your gun looks like though.

 

[sharpsguy]

hi greyrock, thanks again. having problems with pics at the moment. its basically a rifle with the barrel cut off flush with the front of the block [ cant begin to figure out why?????? ] and stock cut to carbine length. i have found an original barrel for it . the rest is clean and in good shape. i dont have a real lot of money into it so i'll see what happens. mike

 

[grimes]

The supporters have a threaded screw that attaches them to the barrel. The screw was then brazed or forge welded in place and the heads ground flush with the sides of the supporters. Depending on how deep the slot on the screw head was you can still see it on some examples.

I believe reproductions from The Rifle Shoppe are made with a round barrel that is threaded into the square portion of the barrel, which is cast with the supporters attached.
If you are intent on restoring your Hall you could probably get a new barrel from TRS and have a good gunsmith install it. But in all honesty it is probably not worth the expenditure. I'd be interested in seeing what your gun looks like though.

Good to know how the supporters/rails are attached.
I figured they were rivets.

Were the screws just used to hold them while they were brazed/soldered in place to the barrel, as well as provide some rigidity?