How Not to Ancestry

I have an ancestor named James Leander Smith 1839-1909 who fought for the Confederacy. Any info about him would be great.
@Wolfman0125 I urge you to start a new thread - it's much more likely that people will see it! This thread is old and many don't look at new messages here. Put any info you already know in the new thread - where James was born, which unit he joined, anything. That will help in the search.
 
I always think of The Godfather, when Vito gets his named changed to his home town
That is what happened to the Honeycutt surname. Honeycutt is just an anglicized form of the name Huncote which was a village in England where the progenitor of the Honeycutt line Augustine Huncote was born before he immigrated to the Jamestown colony in 1645. The Honeycutts are unusual in that so far my research has shown that all of the family members in America can trace their roots to one individual and his wife he married after arriving in America. It is the only line in my family tree where multiple individuals with the same surname did not immigrate to America making research much more difficult for researchers.
 
That is what happened to the Honeycutt surname. Honeycutt is just an anglicized form of the name Huncote which was a village in England where the progenitor of the Honeycutt line Augustine Huncote was born before he immigrated to the Jamestown colony in 1645. The Honeycutts are unusual in that so far my research has shown that all of the family members in America can trace their roots to one individual and his wife he married after arriving in America. It is the only line in my family tree where multiple individuals with the same surname did not immigrate to America making research much more difficult for researchers.
One of my Gx2 Grandpas changed the spelling of his name, likely for political reasons related to the WBTS. He was born in Pennsylvania to a family of German descent. His surname was Wetzel. GGGPa Wetzel left home at 15. traveling south into Kentucky. At some point he attached himself to a Tennessee family group migrating through Kentucky on their way to western Missouri. Reportedly, he fell for one of the girls, joined the group and was reborn a 'Southern Man'. He followed the family west and settled in northwest Missouri. During the run up to the War in Missouri tensions intensified between Missouri's native population and recent German immigrants, who were generally reviled as "Dutchmen". At some time after he reached western Missouri GGGPa Wetzel changed his name to Whetsell.
 
I use Ancestry a lot. I check out the Trees but as you say you have to be careful. I have found several mistakes. I even found mistake for my father. I wrote person and told him what was wrong and that I would know as I was his daughter. The person wrote back I must be wrong.

I just check everything and try to get supporting evidence to back up everything I put about my family.
As you say, checking/double checking the references is key! Don't take anything as gospel - even if you have a reference, find another way to double check it. Census records are incredibly useful, but notoriously error prone - look for the trends in multiple decades, public records, etc.. DNA analysis can also help, but even they aren't foolproof.
 
yep, ran into the same thing. Like I said earlier, what helped me clear the jam up was that I had enough existing info to move past all the repetitive and confusing name issues.

Still cleaning up birth and death dates like what Andy referred to.....I've found a lot of that
Been there! I've one era in my family tree where so many relatives were named "Jeremiah" that even census takers got confused and entered their nicknames in the census in parens or quotes - Jeremiah "Crossroads" Perry, Jeremiah "Redhead" Perry, etc. There's also the challenge when your tree gets very, very narrow, and people are often children, cousins, uncles . . . all at the same time.
 
I signed up a few months ago and have been able to find out some really cool stuff about my ancestors. Yes, there is some incorrect stuff out there, but I have documentation and other sources about my ancestry going back to the late 1700s that I can use as verification, that has helped me a lot and has moved me further back into time.

really cool what I have found out so far, only one Civil War vet that I can trace and that is Michael Stubblefield who served with the 5th Missouri Infantry (Confederate)....he homesteaded to New Mexico after the war and was killed there by outlaws in the late 1880's. I know where he is buried there, in a family plot, and plan on visiting there very soon.
In writing my Civil War ancestor story (google Hiram's Honor) I used ancestry sources but the most useful information came from regimental historians (82d Ohio) and visits to battlefields see (hiramshonor.blogspot.com)
 
As you say, checking/double checking the references is key! Don't take anything as gospel - even if you have a reference, find another way to double check it. Census records are incredibly useful, but notoriously error prone - look for the trends in multiple decades, public records, etc.. DNA analysis can also help, but even they aren't foolproof.

Yes, I go back and forth between decades. Especially for common names that are spelled several different ways during the same era. What ended up being Bealer started as Bieler, Beeler, etc. Even during the War the records are AKA ... Family Search helps a lot, especially if there's a Resource Center nearby. Ancestry is the usual ****-shoot.
 
I use Ancestry a lot. I check out the Trees but as you say you have to be careful. I have found several mistakes. I even found mistake for my father. I wrote person and told him what was wrong and that I would know as I was his daughter. The person wrote back I must be wrong.

I just check everything and try to get supporting evidence to back up everything I put about my family.
I use Ancestry as well. I check the trees and if they have documented sources for specific information, I'll look at those. If it matches up with information I have or fills in a blank with a pice I am missing I'll consider looking further.
 
Yes, I go back and forth between decades. Especially for common names that are spelled several different ways during the same era. What ended up being Bealer started as Bieler, Beeler, etc. Even during the War the records are AKA ... Family Search helps a lot, especially if there's a Resource Center nearby. Ancestry is the usual ****-shoot.
The problem I've had with Family Search is not the records, but Family Search altering my tree there with incorrect information - like my great grandfather's date/place of birth and his naturalization. That leads people astray as well.I have the original baptismal certificate from Hamburg Germany stating the DOB/Baptism was in 1839 in Hamburg. Family Search did an edit and has him born in Bavaria! They have his naturalization in 1860. I have the original certificate from the court in the County of New York (Manhattan) showing it was 1857.
 
The problem I've had with Family Search is not the records, but Family Search altering my tree there with incorrect information - like my great grandfather's date/place of birth and his naturalization. That leads people astray as well.I have the original baptismal certificate from Hamburg Germany stating the DOB/Baptism was in 1839 in Hamburg. Family Search did an edit and has him born in Bavaria! They have his naturalization in 1860. I have the original certificate from the court in the County of New York (Manhattan) showing it was 1857.
You're into the tree there--and the information given is just as good as the ability of the compiler. I feel comfortable with the site's regular pages because it cites (credible) sources; I'd not touch that tree with a ten foot pole because there's no monitor.

Any research regarding the German states is difficult because the boundaries could be fluid. However, there's no way that Hamburg was ever in Bavaria: I suspect that the "editor" was not part of the FamilySearch organization but some enthusiastic compiler.
 
One of my Gx2 Grandpas changed the spelling of his name, likely for political reasons related to the WBTS. He was born in Pennsylvania to a family of German descent. His surname was Wetzel. GGGPa Wetzel left home at 15. traveling south into Kentucky. At some point he attached himself to a Tennessee family group migrating through Kentucky on their way to western Missouri. Reportedly, he fell for one of the girls, joined the group and was reborn a 'Southern Man'. He followed the family west and settled in northwest Missouri. During the run up to the War in Missouri tensions intensified between Missouri's native population and recent German immigrants, who were generally reviled as "Dutchmen". At some time after he reached western Missouri GGGPa Wetzel changed his name to Whetsell.
Did he change it, or the person on a census?
 
You're into the tree there--and the information given is just as good as the ability of the compiler. I feel comfortable with the site's regular pages because it cites (credible) sources; I'd not touch that tree with a ten foot pole because there's no monitor.

Any research regarding the German states is difficult because the boundaries could be fluid. However, there's no way that Hamburg was ever in Bavaria: I suspect that the "editor" was not part of the FamilySearch organization but some enthusiastic compiler.
Exactly. I discovered that the family tree built at Family Search was started before I ever used the site, and that is what irritated me. It was started by someone who knew nothing about the family or the descendants. Someone who mixed correct documents with incorrect documentations. I use Family Search strictly for documents not found elsewhere. I gave up on trying to correct the tree.
 
He changed it in an effort to disassociate himself from the hated 'Dutchmen'. Western and northwestern Missouri was not affected by an influx of German immigrants prior to the War. They concentrated in St. Louis and communities within the Counties adjacent to the Missouri River.
Cool. My dad changed his name after WWII, as no one would hire a Pole.
 
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Don't you just love it when original evidence is not believed.
Yep, even when I posted a scan of the birth/baptismal certification and the naturalization certificate or documentation from the Scottish government archives. Still not believed.
Yes, I go back and forth between decades. Especially for common names that are spelled several different ways during the same era. What ended up being Bealer started as Bieler, Beeler, etc. Even during the War the records are AKA ... Family Search helps a lot, especially if there's a Resource Center nearby. Ancestry is the usual ****-shoot.
Now that I have gotten back to Europe, I found Scotland's People to be excellent. it is run by the Scottish government. I had my great aunt's date of birth, parents names, and place of birth. With that information and the Scottish government website, I've managed to pinpoint ancestors right down to the farms on which they were born.

The site is free to search and look at the index information. You only pay if you want to open up an image and save it. They have old parish records & statutory records for births, deaths, marriages, etc. There are also census records, tax rolls, military records, wills, maps, photographs, etc. I actually verify stuff I find on Ancestry if it is Scottish with what the government website has (and have found transcription errors at Ancestry).

These are some samples of the detail in a statutory register - the marriage of my great grandparents.
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This is a sample of an Old Parish Register for my 2x great grandparents.
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And this is what the index headers look like

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He changed it in an effort to disassociate himself from the hated 'Dutchmen'. Western and northwestern Missouri was not affected by an influx of German immigrants prior to the War. They concentrated in St. Louis and communities within the Counties adjacent to the Missouri River.
Cool. My dad changed his name after WWII, as no one would hire a Pole.
My husband's surname was Italian but with his father's encouragement he changed the spelling to make it look more English. It is still pronounced the same. His dad felt being Italian kept him from advancement in his career. My mother-in-law said her father threatened to boycott her wedding to an "Eye-tie" (but he did show up). I have to believe this is going to be confusing in a hundred years!
 
Now that I have gotten back to Europe, I found Scotland's People to be excellent. it is run by the Scottish government. I had my great aunt's date of birth, parents names, and place of birth. With that information and the Scottish government website, I've managed to pinpoint ancestors right down to the farms on which they were born.

The site is free to search and look at the index information. You only pay if you want to open up an image and save it. They have old parish records & statutory records for births, deaths, marriages, etc. There are also census records, tax rolls, military records, wills, maps, photographs, etc. I actually verify stuff I find on Ancestry if it is Scottish with what the government website has (and have found transcription errors at Ancestry).
Our genealogy "guru" is deep into Scottish research--and this is her main online site. Another site you might try is GenUKI (https://www.genuki.org.uk/); it's free.

I know from doing Norwegian genealogical research that many of its international Norwegian records are available for free on a major Norwegian site. The "good" thing is that Ancestry suggests links which (just as with the American suggestions) may--or may not--be accurate. A downside is that some of the transcribers don't seem to speak Norwegian and have made some misleading translations (such as translating "fadder" as "father" when it actually means "witness").
 
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My husband's surname was Italian but with his father's encouragement he changed the spelling to make it look more English. It is still pronounced the same. His dad felt being Italian kept him from advancement in his career. My mother-in-law said her father threatened to boycott her wedding to an "Eye-tie" (but he did show up). I have to believe this is going to be confusing in a hundred years!
I may have already mentioned it here but for some unknown reason around 1800 one of my Irish ancestors apparently changed Connelly or Conley to the Italian-sounding Connella???
 

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