Reenactor Critique

Having not enough money is completely understandable, but it's too much money in my opinion that shows you should probably do some studying before heading out in the field. It's the people who critique the guys who try their best that **** me off, but guys like the one above just shows laziness.
 
Was that picture really serious? Looks like one of those farby prank pics. There is doing your best and then there is just plain silly. That would never be allowed on the field anywhere around here. The scary thing is the addition of stripes. Can`t be serious.
 
Was that picture really serious? Looks like one of those farby prank pics. There is doing your best and then there is just plain silly. That would never be allowed on the field anywhere around here. The scary thing is the addition of stripes. Can`t be serious.

Buddy, not only is it real, but it gets worst:

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Hang on. The posting of those last two photos is exactly what I'm talking about though. (Bear with me as I try to word this carefully ~ I have hockey blasting in my right ear, and it's nearly impossible to concentrate. :rolleyes: )

That other reenactors would have thoughts about and issues with the men pictured is none of my business. I know nothing and wouldn't be able to tell you what's authentic and what isn't. Of course, in that particular area, I would always defer to those of you who educate yourselves about such things.

However, what I was talking about when I started this thread was the ugly tendency to rip someone whose photo was posted online. I'm sorry, but I just don't like that. I doubt the men pictured would appreciate it. There are better ways to be, you know? Help each other, yes. Be patient with each other perhaps?

I took photos of all kinds of people last weekend, having no knowledge of who was "authentic" and who wasn't. I was not pleased when I found out one of my photos was taken and posted on another site that makes fun of "farbs". I would never give permission for such a thing.
 
That`s why I refrained from comment. But I will say this. It`s not safe to be carrying not properly holstered sidearms and that should have never been allowed on the field. I can`t think of any event I`ve been to in a long time that permitted sidearms for other than commissioned officers and mounted cavalry. In this case somebody should have said something. It`s not safe and would have never been seen on foot soldiers at the time.
 
I would never pick at anybody`s uniform especially not knowing what their situation is but it is a little suspect when you start adding rank to it. Heck, the first couple times I took the field many moons ago I wearing blue jeans and cowboy boots, I was 14 and that`s all I had. (but it was the early 80s and I wasn`t the only one)
 
Hang on. The posting of those last two photos is exactly what I'm talking about though. (Bear with me as I try to word this carefully ~ I have hockey blasting in my right ear, and it's nearly impossible to concentrate. :rolleyes: )

That other reenactors would have thoughts about and issues with the men pictured is none of my business. I know nothing and wouldn't be able to tell you what's authentic and what isn't. Of course, in that particular area, I would always defer to those of you who educate yourselves about such things.

However, what I was talking about when I started this thread was the ugly tendency to rip someone whose photo was posted online. I'm sorry, but I just don't like that. I doubt the men pictured would appreciate it. There are better ways to be, you know? Help each other, yes. Be patient with each other perhaps?

I took photos of all kinds of people last weekend, having no knowledge of who was "authentic" and who wasn't. I was not pleased when I found out one of my photos was taken and posted on another site that makes fun of "farbs". I would never give permission for such a thing.
The next time you go to an event to take some photos take some time and take a good look at some of the great original photographs on this forum particularly of troops in the field and you will be able to tell those that are trying to get it right and go mingle with the guys. The more events you go to and with a little homework you will be able to tell and you will have good results and hopefully no problems like you had like in your first post
 
I think one can be farby while making an effort at being correct. They may not have the funds to get the right thing, but they are "close enough" and will get the right thing when finances allow. Those are the people who want our help and welcome it, constructively, of course.
Then, one can be farby while making no effort, nor having any intention at being correct. These people resent your help and will even argue with you.
It is the second group who get scoffed, and, in my opinion need to "take their lumps" from the people who make the effort at authenticity. It is the farbs with no intention to improve that give the rest of us, Veteran and "New Guy" alike, a bad name.
Thus, scoffing at someone, within parameters and context, does not make the scoffer a bad person.....we are simply laughing at the people who refuse to educate themselves. I don't fault a guy for making an effort, but I can't help but laugh at a guy that refuses.....Sorry if I sound mean.....
 
Heck, the first couple times I took the field many moons ago I wearing blue jeans and cowboy boots, I was 14 and that`s all I had.
Funny that you bring this particular scenario up. One of the photos taken from my friend's album was of two young men who were involved in a living history event (it sounds like it was a separate event) but had been asked to help out with something in the CW event he was photographing. They ended up in the album... and later on a site being made fun of for not being in proper uniform.

Not a proper evaluation with some wise and/or helpful advice, mind you. Just obnoxious behavior.

If this was being done by online trolls, that would be bad enough but not a surprise. We all know the internet is still very Wild West-like in many ways. BUT...the people doing the humiliating are supposedly fellow reenactors. I read some photos of women were taken and treated in a similar manner. Classy!

The good news is that I think the photographer managed to get the photos taken down.
 
https://civilwartalk.com/forums/impressions-of-the-civil-war.140/ is an entire sub forum dedicated to those trying to get it right and trying to improve our own impressions. I have seen bad before, really bad as in making those in the two pictures earlier in this thread look like hardcores in comparison. What rankles many of us are those who are there just to play war, burn powder and drink beer all night. As I said anyone who is honestly giving it their all and putting forward honest effort to improve gets my respect... those just making noise not so much.

It has been made far worse by many a veteran of real combat coming to events and seeing what I can only call those playing cowboys and idiots saying that they are portraying it like it was. If they had any interest in actual Living History or re-enacting that often sours them. There is a very fine line between drama and farce; far too many eagerly embrace farce. When it comes to combat and the death or wounding of comrades and friends... farce is not in the least respectful.

I'm sure the mileage of others will vary.
 
Not in the hobby so maybe a stupid question. What is the usual SOP for weapon/ safety checks? Done at the unit level or is there a centralized safety command? The photo above is why I ask.
 
The next time you go to an event to take some photos take some time and take a good look at some of the great original photographs on this forum particularly of troops in the field and you will be able to tell those that are trying to get it right and go mingle with the guys. The more events you go to and with a little homework you will be able to tell and you will have good results and hopefully no problems like you had like in your first post
Interesting thought. Though honestly, the internet is full of know-it-alls who will for sure find something wrong with someone else's impression. :D

I don't fault a guy for making an effort, but I can't help but laugh at a guy that refuses.....Sorry if I sound mean.....
I don't think that's mean. I think that's a normal reaction.

I'm referring to really rude, really obnoxious online behavior.
 
Not in the hobby so maybe a stupid question. What is the usual SOP for weapon/ safety checks? Done at the unit level or is there a centralized safety command? The photo above is why I ask.
Usually that will depend upon the event and it will vary from event to event. In the past I have been at events where NCO's from various units were selected to do safety checks, others the individual unit was expected to do so and others where safety checks were done as the units assembled prior to taking the field. The most effective IMO were several events where NCO's were selected and those men crossed the field and did the safety checks for units that would be shooting at them. For quite some time I was known as a safety nazi who wouldn't let something pass. At the same time if I thought it was an honest mistake I was willing, and often did, assist that young man in properly cleaning their weapon.

I have had wonder wad come arching towards me and seen a dirt clod leave the barrel. It doesn't pay to be on the receiving end of such.
 
Interesting thought. Though honestly, the internet is full of know-it-alls who will for sure find something wrong with someone else's impression. :D


I don't think that's mean. I think that's a normal reaction.

I'm referring to really rude, really obnoxious online behavior.
Keyboard Kommandos abound and in this world of social media they have only gotten worse.
 
It has been made far worse by many a veteran of real combat coming to events and seeing what I can only call those playing cowboys and idiots saying that they are portraying it like it was. If they had any interest in actual Living History or re-enacting that often sours them. There is a very fine line between drama and farce; far too many eagerly embrace farce. When it comes to combat and the death or wounding of comrades and friends... farce is not in the least respectful.
That is a very interesting topic, and one I am curious about: Combat veterans and battle reenactments.
 
That is a very interesting topic, and one I am curious about: Combat veterans and battle reenactments.
Years ago at an event we had a WW2 veteran of the Pacific War come up to us after our talks and demonstartions. He had nothing but praise for our attempts to get things right. He also spoke of attending a WW2 re-enactment where much to his surprise he discovered there was a unit not only portraying his old Division, Regiment, Battalion & Company but his own platoon. After the event he went up to them and offered to show them how they actually wore & carried their equipment. He was rebuffed and told they had built their impressions upon a historical film of said unit. He told them he had been part of said film and it had been filmed in Hawaii before they ever got anywhere near combat. needless to say his opinion of WW2 re-enacting was... not flattering.
 

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