Young Abraham Lincoln? Or not?

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So far not one person on this thread agrees with you and you think it is because we are jealous? Another rule of thumb for pin backs is that on most period pieces the pin does not extend very far beyond the perimeter. How you tell fakes on Corps badges and id pins.....
Hey there Mr. Miniature Expert ,, Find another case like these for me, would be valuable information possibly- date ,, place ! I have not seen any ! --------- hey never mind,,,, study this one--- maybe you're learn something new,,,, early piece, is the way they were made,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, smarty pants

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Just found from an online sale ---- Jefferson Davis President of the Confederacy --probably special made --gold case is same as mine ----- Sold By --- Union Drummer Boy in Gettysburg --------------
Jeff Davis President of the Confederacy - Inventory Number: CON 143 / Sold

Outstanding and historically important, ca. 1860's brooch depicting Jefferson Davis - The President of the Confederacy. A fine piece of jewelry most likely being constructed of a 10k Gold. This brooch houses an original albumen photo of Davis. The reverse retains the original "T-bar" pin and open clasp design. From the personal collection of Tom Gordon Jr. noted second generation political collector and antique dealer. A wonderful piece of civil war jewelry undoubtedly made in very limited numbers for the well-to-do Southerner.

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I actually did see him at Baja Fresh in Annapolis, MD and this is an original photograph.........here he is without the 1846 hair plugs
I can do even better than that - I actually met and talked with him here in the field at Shiloh! Oh wait; Lincoln was never at Shiloh - well, we can't let a few inconvenient facts get in way of a good story - at least it hasn't stopped us this far! :bounce:

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Ha - He's not rocking my boat ,,,,,,,, know what I got ! - LO
Hey there Mr. Miniature Expert ,, Find another case like these for me, would be valuable information possibly- date ,, place ! I have not seen any ! --------- hey never mind,,,, study this one--- maybe you're learn something new,,,, early piece, is the way they were made,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, smarty pants

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One of the reasons there is such derision is that we have had individuals in the past who try to authenticate buckles, muskets, swords and other such memorabilia, knowing that they are not what they are purported to be. They realize that they won’t get authentication through other means.

What they do not realize is that many of the same individuals they seek to avoid are on this site.

All satire aside, how do you explain your Andrew Johnson’s light colored eyes, when it is known that Andrew Johnson had dark brown eyes? Also Lincoln of 1846/7 had a severely receding hairline, while yours does not, I think explaining those might go a long way. Your reticence in offering these to a noted expert also raises red flags.

We want nothing more than to see “history” and revel in new findings. I collect Confederate cloth and feel very knowledgeable in that arena, but I have always reached out to those that I realize know more, for their expert opinions, regardless of how sure I am in the piece.
 
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Just found from an online sale ---- Jefferson Davis President of the Confederacy --probably special made --gold case is same as mine ----- Sold By --- Union Drummer Boy in Gettysburg --------------
Jeff Davis President of the Confederacy - Inventory Number: CON 143 / Sold

Outstanding and historically important, ca. 1860's brooch depicting Jefferson Davis - The President of the Confederacy. A fine piece of jewelry most likely being constructed of a 10k Gold. This brooch houses an original albumen photo of Davis. The reverse retains the original "T-bar" pin and open clasp design. From the personal collection of Tom Gordon Jr. noted second generation political collector and antique dealer. A wonderful piece of civil war jewelry undoubtedly made in very limited numbers for the well-to-do Southerner.

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While I think none of your photos shows Abraham Lincoln, the Jefferson Davis one is pretty convincing to me. I can imagine it really shows a young and pretty handsome Jeff Davis.
 

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While I think none of your photos shows Abraham Lincoln, the Jefferson Davis one is pretty convincing to me. I can imagine it really shows a young and pretty handsome Jeff Davis.
Yes, that one's well-known and definitely Davis and appears in many reference works; it evidently dates from his time in the Senate or possibly as Secretary of War in the 1850's. This size photo was known as a gemtype and was primarily used to make items of jewelry. In addition to stickpins like these - which were not always used as political tokens - they were probably more commonly found in lockets, brooches, watch fobs, etc. The only gemtype I have in my collection however, is in an equally tiny brass preserver or frame (like on larger images but in miniature) and glued onto cardstock the size of a CDV and occupies one of the pages in a small CDV-sized photo album.
 
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