BlueandGrayl
First Sergeant
- Joined
- May 27, 2018
- Location
- Corona, California
As many of us on CWT know there is a type of alternate history called 'Confederate Victory' alternate history otherwise known as Civil War alternate history (CWAH) next to World War II alternate history it's one of the most popular places for "What If?" fiction out there I mean we even have a place to discuss this topic since so much is written about it CWAH like its WW2AH counterpart exist as a sub genre of alternate history distinct from the rest of the genre as both have a lot of things to cover under altered circumstances.
Some of the most well known CWAH out there are: Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory (a series of 11 novels focusing on a Confederate victory in 1862 and how it affects world state of affairs with a lot of parallelism thrown in) and Guns of the South (a time travel AH where **** ****s called Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging send AK-47 that help Robert E. Lee win the Civil War in 1864 but get into conflict with him much later), Mackinlay Kantor's If the South Won the Civil War (The codifier of the genre), Harry Harrison's A Rebel in Time (also deals with time traveling racists helping the Confederacy win) and the Stars and Stripes Trilogy (about Britain going to war with America a popular CWAH POD), Peter G. Tsouras' Dixie Victorious (an anthology of Confederate victory scenarios posited by various authors), Winston Churchill's (famous British Prime Minister) If Lee Had Lost Gettysburg, Ward Moore's Bring the Jubilee EDITED FOR LANGUAGE MATT MCKEON and countless other CWAH works on either Alternate History Discussion or novels too many to list. Some of our members such as Jeffrey Evans Brooks, CanadianCanuck/Matthew Stienberg, Saphroneth, 67th Tigers etc. have also done CWAH examples include Shattered Nation (a trilogy of novels thus far about the Confederates winning in 1864 by winning the Battle of Atlanta) and Wrapped in Flames: The Great American War and Beyond (an original take on the Britain goes to war with America scenario), like with regular alternate history authors/writers, historians, and even politicians have done "What If?" scenarios
So far CWAH despite being such a dense genre has seen few adaptations on the big or small screen the closest I can say is C.S.A.: The Confederate States of America (by African-American filmmaker Kevin Willmott) though even that is meant to be satire on America's racist history disguised as a Confederate victory there was an attempt at an non-satirical alternate history in the form of HBO's Confederate by Game of Thrones creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss but unfortunately because so many were offended at the idea of a modern day slaveholding nation (same thing C.S.A.: The Confederate States of America does by the way) even though it doesn't come out in favor of it not helped when ****, anti-Semitic thugs and criminals like Christopher "We're not non-violent EDITED FOR LANGUAGE MATT MCKEONkill these people if we have to" Cantwell EDITED MODERN POLITICS.
So in regards to CWAH movies or TV shows would you ever like to see some of the novels written by authors like Turtledove or members like JEB (Jeffrey Evans Brooks) get big or small-screen adaptations to a larger audience? Would you ever watch a CWAH movie or TV show like an HBO-produced Southern Victory show by Alan Ball (creator of another Southern-set series: True Blood) or a Hulu made Shattered Nation show by the creators of The Man in the High Castle (another AH) or a Universal-made Guns of the South movie directed by James DeMonaco (creator of The Purge series)?
Some of the most well known CWAH out there are: Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory (a series of 11 novels focusing on a Confederate victory in 1862 and how it affects world state of affairs with a lot of parallelism thrown in) and Guns of the South (a time travel AH where **** ****s called Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging send AK-47 that help Robert E. Lee win the Civil War in 1864 but get into conflict with him much later), Mackinlay Kantor's If the South Won the Civil War (The codifier of the genre), Harry Harrison's A Rebel in Time (also deals with time traveling racists helping the Confederacy win) and the Stars and Stripes Trilogy (about Britain going to war with America a popular CWAH POD), Peter G. Tsouras' Dixie Victorious (an anthology of Confederate victory scenarios posited by various authors), Winston Churchill's (famous British Prime Minister) If Lee Had Lost Gettysburg, Ward Moore's Bring the Jubilee EDITED FOR LANGUAGE MATT MCKEON and countless other CWAH works on either Alternate History Discussion or novels too many to list. Some of our members such as Jeffrey Evans Brooks, CanadianCanuck/Matthew Stienberg, Saphroneth, 67th Tigers etc. have also done CWAH examples include Shattered Nation (a trilogy of novels thus far about the Confederates winning in 1864 by winning the Battle of Atlanta) and Wrapped in Flames: The Great American War and Beyond (an original take on the Britain goes to war with America scenario), like with regular alternate history authors/writers, historians, and even politicians have done "What If?" scenarios
So far CWAH despite being such a dense genre has seen few adaptations on the big or small screen the closest I can say is C.S.A.: The Confederate States of America (by African-American filmmaker Kevin Willmott) though even that is meant to be satire on America's racist history disguised as a Confederate victory there was an attempt at an non-satirical alternate history in the form of HBO's Confederate by Game of Thrones creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss but unfortunately because so many were offended at the idea of a modern day slaveholding nation (same thing C.S.A.: The Confederate States of America does by the way) even though it doesn't come out in favor of it not helped when ****, anti-Semitic thugs and criminals like Christopher "We're not non-violent EDITED FOR LANGUAGE MATT MCKEONkill these people if we have to" Cantwell EDITED MODERN POLITICS.
So in regards to CWAH movies or TV shows would you ever like to see some of the novels written by authors like Turtledove or members like JEB (Jeffrey Evans Brooks) get big or small-screen adaptations to a larger audience? Would you ever watch a CWAH movie or TV show like an HBO-produced Southern Victory show by Alan Ball (creator of another Southern-set series: True Blood) or a Hulu made Shattered Nation show by the creators of The Man in the High Castle (another AH) or a Universal-made Guns of the South movie directed by James DeMonaco (creator of The Purge series)?
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