Discussion in 'Civil War History - Secession and Politics' started by 1stvermont, Nov 16, 2016.
Gentlemen we have bashed slavery enough.
Lets stick to the topic
I'm confused. I thought I had posted a quote showing slavery as a major reason confederates fought. Isn't the topic the reasons confederates fought?
reasons confederates fought including slavery -> on topic
bashing slavery itself -> not on topic.
It bothers me that we cannot list any reason that Confederate soldiers gave for fighting, or that someone else gave for them fighting, without the knee jerk "don't forget slavery" responses. Is that always necessary?
A body of evidence is emerging that suggests it was even more important than we previously thought.
If you have a desired rule, please state the rule in detail.
I understand the complaint, but the best I can do is quash off topic slavery bashing.
Indeed, but on topic posts please.
To clarify, that body of evidence is suggesting it was even more important as a reason for confederates to fight than we previously thought.
The point, such as it is, was made long ago. At this point it looks more like spamming the thread than adding to our understanding of what motivated the Confederate soldier to fight.
2. See the Elephant
3. Be a big hit with the ladies
4. Be a man among men with the community prove patriotism and being the most macho guy
5. The Yankee hordes will ravish the fair Southland
6.Conscription and yes they will beat mom to a pulp to find out where you are if you try to become a mossback that did happen we have already posted sources I can post more no problem,
7. Bonus yes the CSA did have a bonus as Duanne Presley twice swindled the CSA
8. Per the Ordinances of Succession and the CSA Constitution yes to preserve slavery. We can live in a fantasy land or we can accept reality
9. Prevent black people from becoming equal with white people i.e. keep the races pure, keep b;lacks from voting, inferior education and all that .
Using that logic, the entire thread is spam, since we've talked about confederate soldier motivations several times already.
It is evident that slavery had a great deal to do with it, but obsession is not a good thing.
I will allow on topic posts especially with evidence.
Mere editorial commentary will be limited.
Keep the posts on topic.
Thank you for your time.
It is host and if needed moderator logic that rules.
Get away from daddy, girlfriend's daddy with shot gun or law enforcement.
Get away from the business end of a mule and away from the farm.
Plus the classic "I got wasted with my buddies and I woke up in a camp of instruction" hey it happens to the best.
Big bad John went out west to seek gold 12 month ago and his swetiee is in the family way and I have been seen lurking about his swetties abode
The 31st Alabama Infantry is rumored to have used a Tavern/BBQ as a recruiting place.
Booze and bbq works for me did they have dancing girls?
Not sure, but in the early days of the Confederacy, only patriots joining the army got dates.
It is a reasonable historical position to take that a Confederate joining the army to protect slavery is no more remarkable in the 1860s than a descendant joining the army to protect the American way of Capitalism and Free Enterprise in the 20th century. IMHO the Southern advocates should not get feathers ruffled and some Union advocates might want a different hobby than ruffling feathers.
True if one joins the U.S. military absolutely they are fighting for Capalisim. There was a Marine General who fought in Nicaragua in the 1920s and stated " I am a gangster for Capitalism". A soldier has othets have pointed out always fights for the political goals of his government and as @unionblue and others always say in the long term it doesn't matter why an indvidual fought because they by the act of fighting further the political goals of their government.
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