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Not a quote that google can find. Is there a source?I think that Rosecrans' self deprecating description of the West Virginia Campaign sums it up pretty well, 'Much marching, little fighting.'
Not a quote that google can find. Is there a source?I think that Rosecrans' self deprecating description of the West Virginia Campaign sums it up pretty well, 'Much marching, little fighting.'
As the punctuation indicates, I paraphrased it. I would have to dig it out. The quip is a standard part of Rosecrans' bios.Not a quote that google can find. Is there a source?
Company | Officers | Men | Servants* | Total |
20th Va, Coy H | 3 | 61 | 2 | 66 |
20th Va, Coy C | 27 | 27 | ||
20th Va, Coy G | 2 | 47 | 49 | |
25th Va, Coy G | 3 | 79 | 82 | |
25th Va, Coy H | 3 | 38 | 41 | |
25th Va, Coy F | 3 | 63 | 66 | |
25th Va, Coy C | 58 | 58 | ||
20th Va, Coy F | 2 | 50 | 52 | |
25th Va, Coy K | 2 | 49 | 51 | |
25th Va, Coy E | 4 | 67 | 71 | |
25th Va, Coy I | 4 | 44 | 48 | |
Bn Offrs | 6 | 6 | ||
Surgeons | 5 | 5 | ||
44th Va | 1 | 1 | ||
TOTAL | 38 | 583 | 2 | 623 |
I think it's important to remember that Lee had spent most of his career as an engineer. Besides the problematic command situation others have pointed out in this thread I think it's not unreasonable to think Lee might have had some trouble early on getting his bearings. His later success with the ANV was a somewhat bumpy road and it took some time for him to figure out who he could rely on and who he wanted sent away for being unreliable. And in WV he wasn't exactly working with good subordinates.
Did Lee have Davis' trust at this point? Or did that only happen when Lee was the president's military advisor before becoming ANV commander?
Lee's hands-off command style was not well-suited for weak andfractious subordinates, but the space and terrain of WV may not have been well-suited for hands-on regional command either.
I think the 30th Georgia could be the 20th Mississippi Regiment.He was the GOC of the Virginia Forces. He did devise a scheme wherein Rosecrans would be lured into the Kanawha valley by Floyd's Brigade (5 regts) and Wise's brigade (3 inf regts) working as a division with an additional 3 regts he sent under Wise demonstrating at Gauley bridge and then strike at Cheat Mountain with part of the Army of Northwestern Virginia (6 bdes, 20 regts equiv). Floyd and Wise did not work well together and on the 20th (?) September Lee relieved Wise of his command, ordered all his forces be directly under Floyd and had Wise come to Richmond.
Lee probably had ca. 20,000 effectives in West Va. in 29 complete infantry regts, 4 Bns (each ca. a half-regiment strong), 11 batteries and about 2 regts worth of cavalry. If he'd have command directly and actually concentrated to strike Rosecrans, he could perhaps of overwhelmed him.
ANWVa
1st Bde - remained with "Allegheny" Johnston's rump ANWVa
2nd Bde - to Fredericksburg and hence to GW Smith's Grand Division
3rd Bde - broken up. The 2 TN regts to AS Johnston (fought at Shiloh) and 2 GA regts to ANV
4th and 6th Bdes (minus 6th NC) - to the Stonewall Division as Burks' Bde
5th Bde - broken up. 27th and 37th Va to Stonewall Division, 44th remained with rump ANWVa
AotK
Floyd - 22nd and 45th Va remained in the Kanawha, but the rest of the bde went to Fort Donelson...
Wise - 46th and 60th Va to ANV, 59th to Roanoke Island (mostly captured)
Reinforcements - 24th NC and 13th GA to ANV, 30th is a mystery due to renumbering April 1862...
The Orbats of the Formations were:
Army of Northwestern Virginia (Loring)
1st Bde (BG HR Jackson):
3rd Arkansas
31st Virginia
Hansbrough's Battalion (9th Va Bn) - 4 coys
(these three units were under Col Rust as a column)
12th Georgia
52nd Virginia
Danville Artillery
Maj Jackson's Cavalry
2nd Bde (BG SR Anderson)
1st Tennessee
7th Tennessee
14th Tennessee
Hampden Artillery
Capt Alexander's cavalry company
3rd Bde (BG Donelson)
8th Tennessee
16th Tennessee
1st Georgia
14th Georgia
Greenbriar Cavalry
(no arty, a section of the Hampden arty to be attached)
4th Bde (Col Wm Gilham)
21st Virginia
6th North Carolina
1st Bn of the Va Provisional Army (1st Va Bn)
Troup Artillery
5th Bde (Col. Wm B Taliaferro)
25th Virginia "Reger's battalion" (residue of regiment)
37th Virginia
(these two regiments were under Fulkerson as a column)
23rd Virginia
44th Virginia
Rice's Battery
Lee's Battery
6th Bde (Col JS Burke)
42nd Virginia
48th Virginia
Lee's Cavalry
(no arty, section of Troup Arty to be attached)
(20th Virginia had been effectively destroyed in July, and on 10th September it was formally disbanded and the remaining personnel transferred to other regts)
The 1st and 5th Bdes were used to attack Cheat Mountain.
Army of the Kanawha
Floyd's Brigade
22nd Virginia
36th Virginia
45th Virginia
50th Virginia
51st Virginia
Kanawha Militia Bn (from the 51st Va Militia)
2x coys of cavalry
2x batteries (Adam's Va Gauley Artillery and Guy's State Volunteer Artillery)
Wise's Brigade (Wise Legion)
46th Virginia
59th Virginia
60th Virginia
8th Virginia Cavalry
Wise Legion Arty Bn (4 btys)
Reinforcing Brigade (joined around the retreat from Carnifex Ferry)
14th (24th) North Carolina Volunteers (14th Vols renumbered 24th NC State in November)
13th Georgia
30th Georgia